The Thought of a 300ft Coaster

When Cedar Point choose to build a 300ft coaster, did they know what who they wanted to build it? Did they know what features, and what records they wanted to breaks?

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I was talking to a guy while waiting for MF who said that CP would have had their sales team go to the IAAPA convention to speak with some manufactures. The CF people would have to be in a slight disguise because of the heated competition with other parks who may be spying on them to see their plans. Anyway, they would be lead to a special room with tinted glass in-which the designer would speak to the CF people and make some rough layouts while CF told them what they wanted from it; I.e., a 300ft. drop and overbanked turns. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about and since he is a member of ACE I assume he did.

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www.geocities.com/MadogEric *** This post was edited by coast on 11/7/2000. ***
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Man, I hope you're not serious about all of that...

IAAPA is a chance for manufacturers to "wine and dine" the parks, as a friend of mine so eloquently put it. The parks have all been called on by that point and the ride manufacturers have a pretty good idea what each park is looking for.

I had a conversation with Dick Kinzel at the start of the season and he put it something like this:
"After we rode Fujiyama we felt it was time to bring it to the next level and break the 300-foot level. We already had Magnum, so we knew we wanted something different... a ride that concentrated more on speed."

I also learned from another source that there were other manufacturers in the running. Word on the street is that B&M wasn't comfortable building that tall, and Morgan would have been more expensive. That's all second hand, but from a mostly trustworthy source. Intamin for the most part had much of their engineering finished, as S:ROS at Darien Lake (with similar trains and track) was already in development at that point.

Disguises? Please... the presidents of the manufacturing companies and the GM's and executives of the major park chains are all on a first name basis.

Some of MF's design elements are a function of its placement. The first turn is a huge pull-out on its side, necessary because of the available land. If you're going to build something with sustained speed on that footprint, you need "over-banked" turns.

It might also be worth noting that Werner Stengel may very well have been the designer regardless if it was B&M or Intamin, as the guy has worked heavily with both. CP's own planning and design folk had a lot to do with the layout as well.

The guy you talked to was blowing smoke up your you-know-what.

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Jeff
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*** This post was edited by Jeff on 11/8/2000. ***
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