Catwalks and such

Just a guess, but I'm guessing that the catwalks will be in the neighborhood of a pulley, seeing as how the end of the launch track will be around 60 feet from the ground.

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60 feet from the ground? Wow, I didn't think the ride would start that far off the ground. Seems kind of weird to me, unless you are hinting that the launch will not be a straight 0 degree run, but at an inclined slope up and into the top hat.

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Turkeys, the only animal smarter than man

erm.... isn't that the way it is on the one and only current rocket coaster, Xcelerator? Maybe not 60ft. off the ground, but its probably a decent 20 feet from what I can see on pics from rcdb.com but 60 ft... wow!
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It's all in Twisted Wicker, can't you see?!

Sorry, I didn't know. I really didn't follow the construction of Xcelerator that much, or do I know all to much about the ride except the basics.

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Turkeys, the only animal smarter than man

The ride will not start 60 feet from the ground. The launch track will be on an incline (up), as you can see here in this pic of Xcelerator. I think a lot of us were kind of expecting the end of the launch track to be high off the ground to "help out" with getting the train over the massive top hat.

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"Meh."
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*** This post was edited by Majin Heero 9/15/2002 4:52:10 PM ***

What makes you so sure of everything Majin Heero? "The ride will not start 60 feet from the ground," makes you sound as though you know exactly what the ride is. Maybe you do, I don't know, but I don't know if it's safe to report too many absolutes.

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I don't know exactly what the ride is, but I'm just going by "common" sense. We know that it's an Intamin Rocket Coaster (it would be hard to debate that it is not), and for rollback precaution on Xcelerator, the launch track is on an upward incline to allow for the train to roll back into the station after it is stopped by the brakes. I'm assuming that it will be the same deal on CP's coaster, and if it is, there's no way that both the start and end of the launch track can be 60 feet off the ground.

Sorry for the explanation, I just wanted to justify what I was saying. :)

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"Meh."
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Common Sense is a thing of the past. It isn't taught in school or by parents so there are few blessed with this.

Hmmm, another not so subtle hint from Jeff. I wonder if the proportions for the incline are standardized at Intamin. If so, we could figure the approx. height by comparing it to Xcellerator. I know that's a lot of unknowns, but this could be the best clue yet as to the height. If Xcellerator is 20 ft off the ground before rotating to vertical and the total height is 205, then the rough proportion is 1:10. If the same holds true for CP then it would be 600 ft tall. But does it scale linearly? Probably not. If it's exponential (a bell curve kinda thing) 400 ft certainly seems possible. My math isn't that great and I haven't spent a lot of time figuring this, but over all I really think 400 feet plus is pretty likely.

Of course the ride won't start from 60 feet, my point was that the end of the launch, top of the inclined launch, will be high up.

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Jeff
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"There's nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, when it's all in your mind. You gotta let go." - Ghetto, Supreme Beings of Leisure

Using absolutes isn't a bad thing as long as you know what you're talking about. Common sense is now few and far between among these boards, from what I've seen about people resonding to the rumors of a huge coaster here ant CB.

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I think Jeff gives these small hints/ this is going to be this high....just to watch us fight over why...lol I mean I'm pretty sure he's right, but knowing him it could be some mega launched Intamin proto 4-d and he's just having fun with us;)

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Ehhh... no. :)

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"Meh."
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Common sense is such a funny thing....;) Jeff made an educated guess. If the train is to make it over the top hat at generally rumored height, it would require a velocity not easily attainable. It would require less velocity if it were already entering the element at a considerable height. Besides, you can plainly see the catwalks and connection strut in the current construction.

Why would the launch incline? You ever walk up the inclines on Rattler or the stairs of Cornball Express? It sucks. 60+ feet high of stairs could be reduced by just making the launch incline. Also, there are grey pieces of graduated height.

A'ccom is sometimes right in engineering.

-j

The inclined launch is just for rollback purposes. The machine would have no problem launching the thing to that height. In the event of a rollback, the train needs gravity to keep it from stopping entirely on the brake fins.

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Jeff
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I think what also needs to be pointed out, is that the grade cannot be too steep, otherwise, you're going to have trouble "backing" the train into the station from a roll-back. What I can take from this is that the launch section is going to be really long, maybe twice as long as that on the Knott's Berry Farm edition. If the top hat is to be located in area 51, then maybe we can expect a station somewhere just a bit past the former sites of Chaos and Trokia.

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Jes
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Right. There are now survey marks on the midway that include what can only be a footer number. Right now the marks range from the mid-30's near the tower down to 12, near the Corkscrew Dippin' Dots stand. Each mark was probably around 20' apart. My guess is that footer 1 will be near the Himalaya.

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*** This post was edited by ShiveringTim 9/16/2002 3:08:16 PM ***

The ride is NOT going to start 60 feet off the ground. Do you want to climb up 6 stories of steps just to get on a ride? I don't think so. You people need to start using common sense. The launch is going to be inclined. If it wasn't how would the train roll back to the station in the semi-likely event of a misfire?

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- The Darling one
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has anybody ever thought that the station was going to be at 60 feet?

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- Dennis

Except, that some of the supports that hold up the launch section are as short as a few feet tall. So obviously, the station isn't 60 feet tall, when part of the launch is so close to the ground.

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Jes
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