Unless you absolutely need to go to Cedar Point on a Saturday or have a huge obsession of riding TTD or Maverick over and over again, I find it amazing that anyone on Pointbuzz actually needs to spend $100 on a Fast Lane pass. I usually go on Fridays or Sundays and am able to do at least 2 laps of the park riding the rides I want to ride, no less than 1 time or as many as 4 times, and being done by 5pm and heading home. I would think people on this site would have this figured out like I have. So, at most, I will spend $50 to ride all of the rides I can stand
Doesn't EVERYONE on here know that you start with the rides at the back of the park? Doesn't everyone on here know that you ride Dragster and Raptor at 5? I would think everyone on Pointbuzz knows that. Don't you FL buyers read the trip reports or the tips people give on here?
Do a little reading on here and you might just save yourself a few bucks to spend on the ridiculously overpriced food. If you actually read posts on this site, you can even learn what to do to avoid paying those high prices, too.
Zoug, I don't think that most people on this site need instructions on how to get the most out of the park, your patronizing tips are known by most. Personally, I would rather wait 5 min. than 20 min for a ride, so Fast Lane is worth it for me even when the park is not crowded if I'm setting out to ride a lot of rides, or are with people who only go once or twice a year. Being in the marina and in the park a lot all summer, many times getting the most rides isn't a priority, it's fun to just take in the atmosphere. But, it's nice to have the Fast Lane option available, even if I'm dismissing Zoug's "superior" strategy.
I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks,
than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.
I still strategize even with fast lane. I still start in the back etc etc. The extra money is not an issue because its worth it to me. I plan on it months in advance. I'm with you, I'd rather wait 5 min instead of 20, I am there to ride rides, not eat food. Unlike the previous poster who enjoys 1-4 rides each, I really enjoy my 10+ rides on each and having "extra" time to take a break to eat or whatever. In order for me not to buy fast lane there would have to be people above the merger on millennium force and other ride that have merge point. Then again I love maverick and if there's 20 people in regular queue and 3 in the fast lane, I'm going to go get fast lane. I'd rather save the 2-5 minutes, which by the way adds up over 80 rides.
waterbucket said:
I still strategize even with fast lane. I still start in the back etc etc. The extra money is not an issue because its worth it to me. I plan on it months in advance. I'm with you, I'd rather wait 5 min instead of 20, I am there to ride rides, not eat food. Unlike the previous poster who enjoys 1-4 rides each, I really enjoy my 10+ rides on each and having "extra" time to take a break to eat or whatever. In order for me not to buy fast lane there would have to be people above the merger on millennium force and other ride that have merge point. Then again I love maverick and if there's 20 people in regular queue and 3 in the fast lane, I'm going to go get fast lane. I'd rather save the 2-5 minutes, which by the way adds up over 80 rides.
Combined with your earlier comment:
waterbucket said:
I've been using fast lane every time I've went since it was announced and put into part of the parks services. There have been a few times I'd notice people giving dirty looks or something and I'd just make contact and smile. I almost wanted to have a shirt made that said "the ebt line is over there" with an arrow pointing. Not because I'm an asshole but because I would find it funny to wear around the people who think they are "bothering" those that use fast lane. The value to one person is simply an opinion.
I'm pretty sure I see why you have so many people pissed at you when you ride. If a guy who just paid for what he considers full price tickets for his family has to stand there waiting in line while watching you ride the same ride 10+ times, all the time with you egging him on with your 'suck it' smile, he's pretty much going to want to punch you. It's just human nature.
While at the park from early entry to nearly closing, it seems to me that the addition of FL+ to Maverick and TTD really helped the regular line. We rode TTD 3 times, posted times of 30-45, and just a handful in the FL+ queue. Same with Maverick, although, the posted times were 45-60.
Rugrats2001 said:
I'm pretty sure I see why you have so many people pissed at you when you ride. If a guy who just paid for what he considers full price tickets for his family has to stand there waiting in line while watching you ride the same ride 10+ times, all the time with you egging him on with your 'suck it' smile, he's pretty much going to want to punch you. It's just human nature.
As I explained before, I'm not behaving in that method to everyone, only those that make those stupid comments and give dirty looks while doing it. I've had people try to get in front of the attendant to cut my party off from entering raptor via fast lane queue, and making idiotic comments while doing so. I don't care who you are we made eye contact and smiled ear to ear. People need to learn some respect and realize that on top of everything, Cedar Fair implemented the system not users of it like myself. For those people, the goal is to get them so angry they'd want to fight. [they are more than welcome to try and do something about it] Act like an adult, if you didn't buy fast lane don't whine about people that did, nor stare and make stupid comments that make you sound like a child.
Then again if you can barely afford to take your family, maybe you should be spending that money elsewhere. You are also assuming I ride 10x in a row all at once or more; Perhaps 5 times but thats really pushing it, I will however come back later and ride a few times, and maybe again later at the end of the day. Bottom line is, not everyone using fast lane is an asshole, there is no need to insult and get all butthurt about the people that do use it. In fact most probably aren't, but we paid more, so we get to ride more. Life works that way when it comes to money.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, note that this isn't directed directly at you; if you really want to show them your disapproval, don't go to the park at all, take all your money away from them. Vote with your wallet [or purse] If there are enough of you they will do something about it.
I'm pretty sure it's not human nature for others to get all upset over others being able to afford more, or wanting to and spending more, if that were the case we'd have a lot larger problems as a nation as we do now, there are tons of things people can afford over others that are entertainment and extras in life.
Edit: Maybe the reason that guy gets so hostile towards people that use fast lane is because he spent all of his money to take his family to the park. Maybe it's even a sign of a deeper issue.
Cedar Fair needs a rule that you can only use Fast Lane once an hour on each ride.
People who get upset with Fast Lane users are those who see the same person(s) riding 2, 3, and 4+ times before they can ride once.
I have never had a problem with Fast Lane users. I live close enough that if the lines are long, I don't ride.
Finally, only an idiot--and I don't often use that word--would say that a family who spends all their leisure/vacation money on a trip to Cedar Point, and cannot afford Fast Lane, should stay home. The deeper issue lies with the person who made that statement. Cedar Point is not only for the wealthy!
Bluestreaker said:
Cedar Fair needs a rule that you can only use Fast Lane once an hour on each ride.People who get upset with Fast Lane users are those who see the same person(s) riding 2, 3, and 4+ times before they can ride once.
I have never had a problem with Fast Lane users. I live close enough that if the lines are long, I don't ride.
Finally, only an idiot--and I don't often use that word--would say that a family who spends all their leisure/vacation money on a trip to Cedar Point, and cannot afford Fast Lane, should stay home. The deeper issue lies with the person who made that statement. Cedar Point is not only for the wealthy!
The problem with that argument is this: you also have the option of using fast lane. You don't have to stand in the other line. But this has already been covered many times with the bottom line is its your choice and you have ways to vote that don't include acting stupid and making yourself look like an idiot.
No one said they should stay home, there are tons of other things you can do with your family for free or cheaper. Unfortunately you are misreading the real issue here, which is, there is no reason to get jealous and/or upset because you may or may not be able to afford or choose not to purchase fast lane. Only so many analogies need to be made to show that this same situation exists in many aspects of life. If you don't understand perhaps you could read the previous pages in this thread or one of the other many fast lane threads created by people who got all butthurt by it.
Bluestreaker said:
Cedar Fair needs a rule that you can only use Fast Lane once an hour on each ride.
They don't need anything, Fast Lane is fine like it is. Part of the value in Fast Lane is being able to ride a few times.
I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks,
than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.
people need to stop complaining about the FL wristbands. either fork over the money, and cut out most of the waiting. or wait in lines and deal with it. the option is in your hands.
Where is djDaemon at on this issue? I'm sure he has a few choice words for some of the opinions on this topic :)
TwistedWicker77 said:
Where is djDaemon at on this issue? I'm sure he has a few choice words for some of the opinions on this topic :)
That could be fun. There is also a lot of discussion going on that isn't based purely on opinion [you having the option of using FL, going to the park or not to cast your vote, acting disrespectful towards others, no actual data other than assumptions about the impact on other users, etc, etc etc] are just a few examples. Perhaps that's why djDaemon hasn't graced this thread yet. Or perhaps it's because people are tired of hearing [seeing] people moan and whine about it. Pretty sure there were similar discussions a few years ago, it's a tiring argument with little proof.
jetsplumber really summed it up well. The system is in place, it's not going anywhere, people need to stop crying about it and learn to respect others, its your choice to use it or not use it whether you like it or not doesn't matter. No need to take it out on people using the system, we didn't invent it or implement it, let the company know by being vocal with them or boycotting them. Pretty simple stuff.
waterbucket said:
TwistedWicker77 said:
Where is djDaemon at on this issue? I'm sure he has a few choice words for some of the opinions on this topic :)That could be fun. There is also a lot of discussion going on that isn't based purely on opinion [you having the option of using FL, going to the park or not to cast your vote, acting disrespectful towards others, no actual data other than assumptions about the impact on other users, etc, etc etc] are just a few examples. Perhaps that's why djDaemon hasn't graced this thread yet. Or perhaps it's because people are tired of hearing [seeing] people moan and whine about it. Pretty sure there were similar discussions a few years ago, it's a tiring argument with little proof.
jetsplumber really summed it up well. The system is in place, it's not going anywhere, people need to stop crying about it and learn to respect others, its your choice to use it or not use it whether you like it or not doesn't matter. No need to take it out on people using the system, we didn't invent it or implement it, let the company know by being vocal with them or boycotting them. Pretty simple stuff.[/seeing]
Respect others huh? This from the guy that wrote "I almost wanted to have a shirt made that said "the ebt line is over there" with an arrow pointing."
Scottyf said:
waterbucket said:
TwistedWicker77 said:
Where is djDaemon at on this issue? I'm sure he has a few choice words for some of the opinions on this topic :)That could be fun. There is also a lot of discussion going on that isn't based purely on opinion [you having the option of using FL, going to the park or not to cast your vote, acting disrespectful towards others, no actual data other than assumptions about the impact on other users, etc, etc etc] are just a few examples. Perhaps that's why djDaemon hasn't graced this thread yet. Or perhaps it's because people are tired of hearing [seeing] people moan and whine about it. Pretty sure there were similar discussions a few years ago, it's a tiring argument with little proof.
jetsplumber really summed it up well. The system is in place, it's not going anywhere, people need to stop crying about it and learn to respect others, its your choice to use it or not use it whether you like it or not doesn't matter. No need to take it out on people using the system, we didn't invent it or implement it, let the company know by being vocal with them or boycotting them. Pretty simple stuff.[/seeing]
Respect others huh? This from the guy that wrote "I almost wanted to have a shirt made that said "the ebt line is over there" with an arrow pointing."
I was actually waiting for someone to try to make that comment. Its OK to want or think things, and is irrelevant if you don't actually follow through. Perhaps I didn't do it because it was disrespectful. Not sure about you, but I will treat others with the same respect they show me, its those people that get those "thoughts". Thats why they typically just get a nice smile. Nice try though 😀
Please don't quote the previous post. It's completely unnecessary.
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Bluestreaker said:
Cedar Point is not only for the wealthy!
Yes, it is. A family of 4 spending an entire day in the park can easily shell out $500+ before FL. That alone is out of reach for a significant number of families.
Some families can afford that, but can't afford that + FL. Some can afford both. Some can afford all of the above combined with staying on-property (netting them ERT). Some can afford an entire week of all of the above. Some can afford VIP tours.
Brandon
No, Cedar Point is not just for the wealthy. Maybe not for the very poor either but within the working class my experience was that while better off families than us went on actual vacations we went to Cedar Point. If we were lucky my mom's employer would have the company picnic at Geauga lake and then we would get to go to both. One day of Cedar Point was our yearly vacation and while I can do a little better than that for my kids by getting season passes I know other families with lower incomes that do the same as my parents did. One day at Cedar point is the yearly vacation. During leaner years there were no souvenirs and we ate peanut butter and jelly out of a cooler for all our meals but at least we were at Cedar Point.
Actually, Cedar Point is for whatever guests make them the most money.
If they determine they can make more money by jacking the one day price up to $100 and fastlane up to $200, they'll do it.
They are under no obligation to provide a working class vacation out of the goodness of their hearts. They are out to make money for shareholders in the best way possible.
Goodbye MrScott
John
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