Would the CP Cyclone even be worth rebuilding?

I remember before all the changes to the Oceana Midway over the years, but especially before the announcements of Gatekeeper and Wicked Twister, there was always a lot of talk of "CP should tear down Disaster Transport and get CCI/GCI/Gravity Group to rebuild the Cyclone".

Obviously unless CP goes even further into the parking lot that's no longer likely to happen on that side of the park, so the only real area that could work for a beachside classic-type woodie would be the Cedars area on the marina side.

That being said, I can't really seem to find anything definite about what its layout actually was, or how thrilling/how 'good' it was, other than that it was a Traver coaster. The general assumption seems to be that it was a carbon copy of the big three Traver Cyclones, but it has nothing near the historical notoriety, so I can't think that it would have been that insane or intense.

Still, if it was rebuilt I could see it pretty much being an all-original design with the same name, along the lines of Shoot-The-Rapids, so in a way arguing about the original layout is probably kind of moot.

I found an interesting no limits recreation of the original Cyclone at CP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CaCU7j4T94 it looks like an interesting layout.

I would vote for a Gravity Group re-creation of the Cyclone at Cedar Point. Don't know If they have the room to build it now, but If they did, that would be my vote.

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I would love that ride. It seems like it would be a good ride for the 46" group if they could reduce the height limit that much.


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That Crazy Dan said:
I can't really seem to find anything definite about what its layout actually was

If you have a Hardcover copy of David Francis' Cedar Point: The Queen of American Watering Places book you will see a layout on pg.99 I believe. The Cyclone had a similar track layout to Gemini but with a criss-cross track in the middle. In today's park, it would have stretched from the right side of Giant Wheel to about the 2nd hill of Gatekeeper. I don't think that it would be that hard to duplicate today. However what's more impressive, if you get ahold of the book, it would be more impressive to see a modern layout of the High Frolics or Leap the Dips coasters (compare their size to Cyclone) that would stretch into the main parking lot beyond the front gates. Now those would be cool.

I think the coolest thing Cedar Point could do, is build a long woodie that incorporates some of the best elements in Cedar Point's past roller coasters, with each element being themed (or at least recognized) to that roller coaster.

jimmyburke's avatar

We don't get cyclones in this area, only hurricanes.

Maverick00's avatar

We don't even get hurricanes where I live in Ohio, it must be different in Sandusky.


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Kevinj's avatar

We had a hurricane where I live on Ohio about 5 years ago.


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Gatekeeper2013's avatar

I always thought it was just a water spouts and tornados. Hurricanes come off of the ocean which Ohio lacks greatly.
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Pete's avatar

I've had a Hurricane in Ohio, I got to keep the glass too. :)


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Jeff's avatar

I don't think anything that made it inland to Ohio was anything more than a tropical storm ever. Walt's the meteorology geek though, so I defer to him.


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Kevinj's avatar

I lived in Columbus when Hurricane Ike ripped through the day after my daughter's 1st birthday party. I may be completely wrong (I'm no weather geek at all), but I always thought that if the winds were 75 mph sustained and above, it's still a hurricane, and I distinctly remember our weather people talking about it in that regard.

So...what say you, Walt?

The weather aside, "Cyclone" is a classic great name for a wooden coaster, and count me in as one who was hopeful that was exactly what was coming in Disaster Transport's place. While it would seem a bit silly to me to actually rebuild the ride itself, building a new-age hybrid sounds like a wonderful idea to me.

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We've had the outer edges of the really large hurricanes impact us. Don't remember for sure but I think it was Sandy that we had storm damage from and things got cancelled like lots of community trick or treating and then it was rescheduled for Saturday afternoons in some places because there was so much debris not cleaned up yet and they didn't want the kids getting hurt walking through it in the dark.

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The schools in my town and I believe much of Northeast Ohio were closed the day Sandy came through here.


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Yes, my kids' school and the one I work for were both closed.

Walt's avatar

I love when I get to play the role of weather geek! Prepare to learn more than you ever wanted to know. :)

In recorded weather history, there have been six tropical systems where the center eventually passed within 50 miles of Sandusky. None were hurricanes when they reached Ohio -- four met the technical requirements for a Tropical Storm, the other two were tropical depressions.

Hurricane Opal (1995) -- was a Tropical Storm when it passed south of Mansfield.

Tropical Storm Candy (1968) -- was a tropical depression as it passed over Toledo.

Unnamed Hurricane (1926) -- center of circulation passed directly over Sandusky, but only as a tropical depression.

Unnamed Hurricane (1915) -- was a weak Tropical Storm when it passed directly over Sandusky on August 22, 1915.

Unnamed Hurricane (1902) -- passed just south of Sandusky as a weak Tropical Storm.

Unnamed Tropical Storm (1892) -- passed as a weak Tropical Storm between Sandusky and Toledo.

The closest active hurricanes to Ohio were in 1863 and Hurricane Hazel in 1954, both which passed over central Pennsylvania as category 1 hurricanes.

There have been plenty of other storms, though, which brought flooding and high winds to Ohio - at least seven over the last 20 years. Sandy in 2012, Katrina in 2005, Ivan and Frances in 2004, Isidore in 2002, Fran in 1996, and Opal in 1995 all brought major flooding to Ohio.

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jimmyburke's avatar

So... they could rebuild the CP Cyclone but rename it the Unnamed Tropical Storm!

Pete's avatar

If it were called Cyclone, shouldn't it be in the southern hemisphere?


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