Which Is Smoother Top Thrill Or The Force

In my view I can't tell if TTD or MF is which the smoother one. The two are so similar in the way of the track MF(boxed, V shaped, then flat) TTD (boxed, flat I think). Its also depends on that they are two of the three new ones. So what do you think is the smoother one?

I think they are both very smooth in their own right.

I really think you are going to fast to even notice, really how smooth/rough TTD is. But, Millennium Force is really smooth.

i have an opinion on this one and i believe millennium force is smoother because on top thrill the twist in the track kind of whips ur back out of place if u have a bad back like me but MF doesnt

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Cedar_Point#1_fan said:
i have an opinion on this one and i believe millennium force is smoother because on top thrill the twist in the track kind of whips ur back out of place if u have a bad back like me but MF doesnt

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1. Please learn how to capitalize and put punctuation in your sentences.

2. Why are you going on TTD if you have a bad back?

3. Your talking about lateral G forces. Were talking about: Smooth: Millennium Force, Rough: Mean Streak kind of thing.

While they are both very very smooth, I think that Millennium Force takes the cake on this one, as it seems to me that right after you leave the launch track, the ride seems to "hop" in the slightest sense....maybe it is just me who thinks that, but again, they are both really smooth. The smoothness is one thing that Intamin definitely does right.

That hop is the train disengaging from the launch sled. The second the catch car slows down the wind slows the train down a lot before the train starts to go straight up.

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daniel smith said:
The two are so similar in the way of the track MF(boxed, V shaped, then flat) TTD (boxed, flat I think).

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The track on these rides are the same. That wouldn't make the difference. They should be just as smooth as the other since they have the same wheel configuration. Some days the wheels on one of the rides may be bad but other than that they should be the same.

Who really Cares which is smoother, there both great rides, & Magnum is Rough, but its still a great ride also...

That's a great question though. There's no way I can tell. Magnum is really rough, that lap bar kills my legs.

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Gomez said:
That hop is the train disengaging from the launch sled. The second the catch car slows down the wind slows the train down a lot before the train starts to go straight up.

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daniel smith said:
The two are so similar in the way of the track MF(boxed, V shaped, then flat) TTD (boxed, flat I think).

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The track on these rides are the same. That wouldn't make the difference. They should be just as smooth as the other since they have the same wheel configuration. Some days the wheels on one of the rides may be bad but other than that they should be the same.

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You are correct, but most of the disengaging feeling is different. It the sudden loss of acceleration that causes you to feel that hop... Your natural instinct of being accelerated, (pushed into your seat) is to fight it and try to lean forward, even if its the slightest bit and you might think you dont fight it, but you really do (just in different amounts). When the train passes the cable and the train is running on momentum purely, your body stops accelerating and is thrown forward because it was fighting the force of being pushed into your seat.

To test this out, position your body in an open doorway and force your wrists directly into the door frame so that a Normal force is created parallel to the floor into the frame. Do this for a minute as hard as you can. This is creating an accleration into the frame from your wrists. After a minute, step out of the frame and relax your arm muscles immediately. What happens? Your arms should feel to float up because of the change of acceleration your body was fighting.

The track is the same as gomez said and would give the theoretical same smootheness of a ride. Intamin uses a very solid track design which is also very intricate in comparison to other Coaster Designs. The track that the wheels directly run on is very well supported with very few gaps in the support of it. This doesnt allow the track to give much as a train passes over it and eliminates the hills and valleys that cause bumpy rides on other coasters.

This is an easy question for me because I really don't have to think....lol. Millennium Force and Top Thrill Dragster are both awesome rides and the smoothest I've ever ridden. Now as far as Magnum. If Magnum had the same style track as these 2 coasters, you would have another smooth coaster.

No, the hop is caused by the train slowing down faster than your body after the catch car releases. A sandbag or water dummy would 'hop' forward as well.

They're very nearly the same trains. The only difference is the condition of the springs. If the springs are weak, the trains shift around.

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Seth Oakley said:
No, the hop is caused by the train slowing down faster than your body after the catch car releases. A sandbag or water dummy would 'hop' forward as well.

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You are not slowing down in that hop, though you do to friction over time. You simply stop accelerating and no longer feel the push to the back of the seat. Its simple physics and can ask any physicist that.

You are slowing down in that 'hop' due to friction. Your body doesn't have the same 'friction' the train does, so your body tends to continue forward faster than the train. It's simple physics and YOU can ask any physicist that.

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Seth Oakley said:
You are slowing down in that 'hop' due to friction. Your body doesn't have the same 'friction' the train does, so your body tends to continue forward faster than the train. It's simple physics and YOU can ask any physicist that.

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I AM a physicist and in the relm of entity, your body and the train are treated as ONE and the wind resistance pushing against your chest would hold you in your seat because 'thats whats supposedly slowing you down'...if this resistance was slowing you down so much that it 'made you hop forward' the resistance would be pinning you in your seat and you wouldn't hop forward. Draw up a free body diagram for yourself and figure it out. *** Edited 8/10/2004 6:24:21 PM UTC by tonymtdew***

but in the REALM of reality, the body is loose within the restraints and not fixed to the train, so it cannot exist as one entity. Sure, it's convinient to think of it as one entity, but they are two separate entitites. Same thing happens to me an a car when i let off the gas pedal...no wind on the inside of my car. *** Edited 8/10/2004 11:05:37 PM UTC by Seth Oakley***

I have never been on either of them but I would imagine they would both be pretty smooth since they are both relatively new coasters...

Sorry, Tony. I've gotta go with Seth on this one.

You're not rigidly attached to the train, so when it comes off of the launch sled and begins it's deceleration and you don't decelerate at the same rate you get the lurch forward.

It's similar to being in a car and pushing down the gas pedal. You get pushed into your seat. But when you lift your foot off the gas your body lurches forward.