Water and Electrical Usage

I'm doing a school report on water and electrical usage in the world. I chose to do CP. Can anyone tell me how much water and electrical CP uses in a day and/or month and/or year. Any kind of information would be great.

Walt's avatar

There was an article in the Sandusky Register circa 2000. It mentioned that Cedar Point has a water usage fluxion of 2,000,000 gallons per day during the summer.

You might find some information on the City of Sandusky's web site (or perhaps someone you could e-mail a question to).


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WT:Power requirements 3.0 MVA (15s per 100s) umm whateva that means. Info found on cedarpoint.com. You may be able to look up every ride there and add them to get maybe half of the power used. When on rides website go to ride statistics.


Goodbye 2005 season!!!!

I thought I checked CP's website. I'll go check again.

I think there are four main electrical lines that run into the park. These lines are on separate breakers (?) so if one of them goes out, only that section of the park will be without power, unless all four lines are out.

I believe Wicked Twister is has one of these lines pretty much all to itself. Someone correct me if I am misinformed.


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A line was run in from the mainland for Wicked Twister. Dragster draws power from the same line. Listen to the speakers in the Dragster queue when WT is launching- you can hear electrical noise. Would somebody please buy them a capacitor?

As for the total number of lines, I don't know how many there are.

Where exactly are alll these lines located? I'm no electrician, but i doubt those lines on the causeway carry all the power. If they are underwater, I'd hate to see what would happen when on of them got a short in it.

One is on the old causeway. Now the "backway" into the park. I dont know how many lines were there but i know some are.


Goodbye 2005 season!!!!

Jeff's avatar

Michael Darling said:
Would somebody please buy them a capacitor?

And just what would that do? I think you mean an isolation transformer.


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Capacitors are commonly used in audio applications to help reduce noise. Stick one in your car audio system to help reduce engine noise. Noise in speakers is usually somehow related to not having a perfectly clean power source. A cap helps eliminate the spikes and other noise on the power line.

Jeff's avatar

That won't fix the problem.To keep the RF noise from traveling to the audio system, it has to be isolated.


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Actually that's not what a capacitor does. A capacitor is like a small (in comparison to the whole system) battery to level out speaks and valleys in the power draw from the source. For example... If you have a car stereo system with several large amplifiers, you might notice your headlights dimming when the CD hits a deep bass note. The amps are drawing a lot of power at that point, and may even clip. Adding a capacitor (measured in farads, usually 1/2 or 1 farad would work here) is like a reserve of power to smooth out those peaks. But they don't reduce electrical noise. That, like Jeff said, would be an isolation transformer...


ROUNDABOUND.

In this case, a isolation transformer probably won't help much since there is likey a harmonic that is causing the noise. If so, they would need a circuit designed specifically to treat it. For what it's worth, it's too expensive to do such treatment for an audio system.
In contrast, the PLC's (programmable logic controller, or computer) needs all power, input, output lines to be filtered. Imagine if every time a train gets launched on Wicked Twister, Top Thrill Dragster gets an error so they have to go down mechanical.

As for 3.0MVA: 3.0M is 3 mega- or 3 million, VA are VoltAmperes. A VA is a measure of 'apparent' power.
(120 volts) * (1 amp)= 120 VA. The difference between apparent power and real power is in Power Factor. Power Factor is an adjustment to get real power usage out of apparent power. Inductive (electromechanical devices such as a motoer) and capacitive loads have lower power factor than a pure resistive circuit such as a light bulb.
A light bulb has a Power factor of negligibly close to 1 (Best possible)
(120 volts)*(1 amp)*(1 PF correction)= 120 Watts
An electric motor, on the other hand, usually has a poor power factor druing load. Wicked Twisters linear induction motors are no exception. Example of .6 Power factor
(120 volts)*(1 amp)*(.6 PF correction)= 72 Watts

Wicked Twister's transformer is probably rated at 3.0MVA because of it's poor power factor.

As for how much the numbers accumulate over time, you most likely won't be able to get them. That is unless Cedar Point released them on their website or to the media.

Okay, I'm a little puzzled but I can work with it. Thank you!

Jeff's avatar

I've had isolation transformer on PA's that were sitting next to banks of lighting dimmers (the giant old kind from the 70's). Worked like a champ.


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