Two Twirly Spikes?

Are the two twirly spikes better than one straight and one twirly? Like Steel Venom.

Note: Better as in Airtime or G's

I'll answer that after I get over the fact that we're talking about twirlies! :)

Straight down is way more fun.

The holding brake does nothing for me. I like the back spike spiral because with the spiral, you're able to see quite a bit more than just the seat in front of you.

I agree with Ben. In fact, I think the brake hurts a little. Your cruzing along all fine and then WHAM. Ok, I guess it's not that bad, but I never liked it.

I think its only fun in the front seat. But, like Jason said, it sorta hurts. That's the same reason I don't like any of the deja vu coasters. Well, that and they just suck. :)

Is Ben your imaginary friend, Jason?

Or did you mean Doug? ;)

I never thought the 'hold' ever really hurt, per se. It was more like an odd feeling that bordered on uncomfortable.

The Twirly Spikes would make a good name for a punk band.

CPboy77 said:
Straight down is way more fun.

...and that's exactly where this thread went.

And you didn't help anything.

How did you know about my imaginary friend. Lol. Yeah, I meant Doug...

I like the twists on Wicked Twister rather then one twist and then the straight track with the break on Steel Venom. The break makes me kinda worried cause if it messes up and wont work right it may hold you up there rather then let you go. But i love Wicked Twister and Steel Venom. I hear all the time while in line for Twister, is that pose to move?

So that's why SV shut down, they put a break at the top of the spike?

Why would an engineer (ignoring the fact that this is an Intamin) intentionally put a break in a coaster?

Dalefan329 said:
The break makes me kinda worried cause if it messes up and wont work right it may hold you up there rather then let you go.

Overlooking the wrong word, only one who obviously doesn't understand the technology would be worried about such a thing.

^ - yes. I would imagine that the brake on the back spike, UNLIKE most brakes on coasters is defaulted to open. At least that would make the most sense.

I much prefer WT's twisted back spike to SV's straight one. It feels much more intense to me, and gives you a much better view in my opinion.

JuggaLotus said:
^ - yes. I would imagine that the brake on the back spike, UNLIKE most brakes on coasters is defaulted to open. At least that would make the most sense.

Isn't the brake just a LIM motor? Basically nothing but a magnetic field is holding that train. Default is power off.

I don't think so, LIM's. I don't know that a LIM could actually hold a train (similar to how the magnetic brakes can't actually "stop" a train). And even if they could, the power needed for holding a train vertically would seem to make it prohibitive.

To me, it would really seem that the cheap and effective method would be mechanical brake that defaults open. Even though it COULD (Rideman please back me up on this) theoretically be done with a LIM, I don't think it would be logistically feasible.

I guess another option would be for a powerful electro-magnet on the tower and another permanent magnet on the train.

Are we talking about the theoretical ability of a brake to hold a train on the spike, or the realistic ability?

All the pictures I can find aren't close enough, or the train is in the way. The brake is white like LIM and many electrical wires are routed up to it, but I'm not for certain what it does.