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Vanessa said:
They do this even if the shirts are obviously not for profit because an organization I was in couldn't have the logo on our group's t'shirts and they were not for profit. I don't know if the same goes for the TTD logo or not.

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ONE freeway stamp a day... ONE

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Yes, but was the shirt shop going to make money?

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"I can't make a movie or write a song either, but that doesn't mean I'm not entitled to think they suck."
-Jeff

Drags: 0 Forces: 0 Twists: 0 Kick the Sky: 0

oh.... good point. The shirt shop would have made a profit even though we weren't selling them. You would actually be making these yourself... I Dunno!

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ONE freeway stamp a day... ONE

You're oversimplifying it Draeger, and disregarding case law. I asked the lawyer who registered my trademark (CliqueSite®) and he referred me to section 43. It states that use of the mark implies affiliation with the owner and therefore constitutes infringement (he says furthermore that you might argue the park is denied the chance to sell merchandise). He also says there is case law on the books that indicate the "commerce" clause was made in the spirit of journalistic use, so that if I review "Microsoft Windows," I don't need to indentify it as a trademark.

Don't mess with me and IP law... I've been dealing with it professionally now for 12 years.

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Webmaster/GTTP - Sillynonsense.com
"Pray that your country undergoes recovery!" - KMFDM

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You're oversimplifying it Draeger

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Who now?

Yes, case law is a tricky thing. If you put a review on the t-shirt (5 out of 5 stars!), you would have "the spirit of journalistic use".

As for 43... if you look at 43.4, it says that:

"(4) The following shall not be actionable under this section:

(A) Fair use of a famous mark by another person in comparative commercial advertising or promotion to identify the competing goods or services of the owner of the famous mark.

(B) Noncommercial use of a mark.

(C) All forms of news reporting and news commentary."

The following section goes on to talk about different cases of violation.

The great thing about US law is that you can take it to court and it could go either way.

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"I can't make a movie or write a song either, but that doesn't mean I'm not entitled to think they suck."
-Jeff

Drags: 0 Forces: 0 Twists: 0 Kick the Sky: 0

Once again do it anywase, nothing will happen to you. My intramural softball team at OSU has the Natural Light logo on the front and we had them made at a printer who just turned his head. I don't see any of us paying fines or going to court anytime soon.

Go Natural Lightning

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Just can't live in that negative way... Make way for the positive Day

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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP - Sillynonsense.com
"Pray that your country undergoes recovery!" - KMFDM

I can't believe you people are this idiotic! Any trademarked logo/icon is illegal to reproduce without permission. How do you think I felt when I made t-shirts for my DDR team in Hawaii for a tournament only to be told by officials I had to get rid of them because of trademark infringements? So, no, do not "do it anyway", if you do, more power to Cedar Point when you are told to remove them in the park.

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2003 - Gemini Crew

Notice how th3digitalmind and steelrider33 are now banned? All they did was say that Jeff was wrong. Why do you people keep coming to this site when it run by some insecure guy who thinks he's better than all of you? He thinks he's better because Cedar Point gives him free stuff and lets him attend Media Day and all that crap. But he doesn't realize that the only reason he gets all that is because YOU PEOPLE VISIT THIS SITE! If this site had no visitors, Jeff wouldn't get all of the stuff he does from CP.

There's no reason to take this crap from him. Go somewhere else that you can be appreciated by the site owner, and can also make a negative remark about the site owner or his/her site and NOT BE BANNED for it! Heck, if people showed some interest, I'd start my own site. I've started some very popular forums, and I don't disrespect my customers.
*** This post was edited by Previously Banned 5/11/2003 3:18:29 AM ***

Well, Jeff could pull the entire board if he wanted to, not that I would like that. But it IS his property/website and he should have final say in things. Not to mention, I have equally strict rules and regulations on my forums that I run. Read the TOS, it helps in understanding how the forums are moderated.

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2003 - Gemini Crew

Am I the only one who likes the job jeff is doing here?

No, bholcomb, you're not the only one...in fact I'd say that nearly everyone here thinks that he is doing a great job. To have these sites up for 5 years, to dedicate endless hours of moderation to the boards, and hear all the whiny ass comments from rogue morons day in and day out makes it pretty annoying to keep them up...far more than I could probably imagine.

Yes, Previously Banned, you'll be sure to spark an uprising! Everyone, quick! go get digital torches and imaginery pitch forks so that we can bring down GTTP and all of it's evilness! While we're at it...Down with copyrights! Down with trademarks! Steal as much informational property from others as you can!

Steelrider33 was nothing more than a mole who posted just to spark flame wars, and from what I saw th3digitalmind wasn't much better.

In conclusion, the world would be a much better place without ass clowns running amuck.

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...and the most anticipated event of summer 2003 is...

The Matrix: Reloaded!

I didn't notice all of this copyright infringement info before, and I removed my previous post.

I don't post here too much, but I check the site about every day, and I think that Jeff does a good job moderating the boards. It's just that some people are "ass clowns" as CP bound said, and they expect that we will put up with it. I am glad to see that Jeff takes a stand to get rid of these needless posters.
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The only way that I can see you being able to legaly use the logo is to write CP and to get permission. Snail mail would be alot better than e-mail, it woul appear more legit. Will you get permission? Who knows.

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AKA...Somewhatchewy, Joseph the White.
If ignorance is bliss, why aren’t more people happy?

You get banned when you start talking about people's likelyhood of fornicating and telling people to shut up, not because you disagree. There's a difference, and some of the kiddies don't get it.

Thank you to those of you who do get it.

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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP - Sillynonsense.com
"Pray that your country undergoes recovery!" - KMFDM

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Jacob Heller said:
How do you think I felt when I made t-shirts for my DDR team in Hawaii for a tournament only to be told by officials I had to get rid of them because of trademark infringements?

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I'm sure Cedar Point has a dress code that lets them get rid of anything they don't like.

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I can't believe you people are this idiotic! Any trademarked logo/icon is illegal to reproduce without permission.

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And I'm not being idiotic. I'm simply quoting United States Trademark Law, which covers this situation. As far as US Law is concerned, this is perfectly legal. And if you still don't think so, there are a number of loopholes (5 of 5 stars!).

I can understand Jeff though. If someone was trying to make trouble and ruin our wonderful debate he should have gotten rid of it. At least he didn't delete the thread because he didn't like being challanged so much.

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"I can't make a movie or write a song either, but that doesn't mean I'm not entitled to think they suck."
-Jeff

Drags: 0 Forces: 0 Twists: 0 Kick the Sky: 0

Rider, didn't mean any offense to ya, was aiming it more towards the people that were telling them to go ahead and do it because Jeff is wrong, blah blah blah... So, my apologies!

Though, the number one way to see if ANYTHING like this can be done, is to call the park and ask them or visit in person and offer the design for their input, not to mention the easiest and least contraversial.

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2003 - Gemini Crew