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...making the stage an "ice rink".
Actually, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the show involves NO ICE AT ALL, much like the ice skating show that Kings Island did a number of years ago in the Paramount Theater. There is a nifty lubricated plastic material that behaves much like a groomed ice surface if you try to skate on it, but it requires no refrigeration, and no surface maintenance. It isn't ice, but it looks the part and allows the performers to do all the usual gliding about.
That still doesn't explain what they're going to do for "backstage" or for wing space...!
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Actually, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the show involves NO ICE AT ALL, much like the ice skating show that Kings Island did a number of years ago in the Paramount Theater. There is a nifty lubricated plastic material that behaves much like a groomed ice surface if you try to skate on it, but it requires no refrigeration, and no surface maintenance. It isn't ice, but it looks the part and allows the performers to do all the usual gliding about.
That still doesn't explain what they're going to do for "backstage" or for wing space...!
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
I once thought it would have made more sense to take out dodgems right there... Unless, they are.... I just had a thought... They didn't say there wouldn't be a dodgem by magnum. They only said they were taking that one out. Maybe that means, they will be moving the cars from the Dodgem by the theatre. This would allow for the building to be expanded. A good thought, probably totally and completely wrong. I can only really visualize them enclosing the Cinema Showcase portion to add that space.
Just a little FYI.....the ice will actually be ice. It will be a traditional stage with ice being about 70' Wide by 40' deep. They are going to enclose just the stage area in the showcase so there is "wing" space to store some of the scenery and props that cannot fly in and out.
Construction is not underway, but it is pretty close.
CP_Bound, that's the "Cinema Showcase". Sounds like they're doing pretty much exactly as you suggest.
The IMAX screen is, I believe, 77 x 88 feet, so if the new stage is 70' wide, that means it will come to within nine feet of the sides of the building. The 40' figure sounds about right; I think that's a little more than the distance from the screen to the railing at the center of the screen. Hmmm...Maybe they are going to extend the building at the back a little, though there is precious little space there between the building and the road. That would give them a little more space. I'm guessing we may see a semicircular thrust stage here. Just a guess, mind you. I'm also thinking the bottom of the front teaser (assuming one is used) will be about the same height as the back row of seats; that's what...maybe 30-40' up?
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
The IMAX screen is, I believe, 77 x 88 feet, so if the new stage is 70' wide, that means it will come to within nine feet of the sides of the building. The 40' figure sounds about right; I think that's a little more than the distance from the screen to the railing at the center of the screen. Hmmm...Maybe they are going to extend the building at the back a little, though there is precious little space there between the building and the road. That would give them a little more space. I'm guessing we may see a semicircular thrust stage here. Just a guess, mind you. I'm also thinking the bottom of the front teaser (assuming one is used) will be about the same height as the back row of seats; that's what...maybe 30-40' up?
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Well, I don't think they are going to add on to the building..other than space for the cast to change costumes in.....there is some space behind the screen..sound came from back there so there has to be some room. As for the opening of the proscenium...30' - 40' is way to high for them to be able to fly scenery in and out. I would guess it would be around 25' - 26'. That would give enough space for the scenery to hide up above the stage.
Well, the roof is 77' up. Assuming that the seating doesn't change, it's about 30' from the floor to the top row, but the rake is so steep that if the front of the stage opening is much lower than that, the sightlines will be terrible from the upper rows. But I don't think that will necessarily be a huge problem. After all, can you name a single theater at Cedar Point that has any fly space at all?
I know Golden Palace doesn't, Centennial *really* doesn't, and I think Red Garter also doesn't. If they built a fly-loft into the Good Times Theater or whatever they're gonna call it, do you think Live-E would know what to do with it? :)
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
I know Golden Palace doesn't, Centennial *really* doesn't, and I think Red Garter also doesn't. If they built a fly-loft into the Good Times Theater or whatever they're gonna call it, do you think Live-E would know what to do with it? :)
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Well I would bet the Live-E staff would know what to do with a fly space. Just because none of their other facilities have one, doesn't mean that their background is not filled with theatres with fly spaces. The staff there is very well qualified, and fly spaces are very common. As well as the fact that the sets are being designed by the Manager of Design at Knott's, lighting by a designer that has designed for Disney, Universal, Off-Broadway and Regional shows around the country. Directed by a Skater who used to direct Stars on Ice and was the resident director for Charles Schulz's ice arena (they did huge shows there). The show has a lot of sets, costumes and lighting. Without a fly loft, the show would be pretty boring. As well I would believe that they would have to raise the floor surface to a higher level for the stage. Right now it rakes lower near the screen and higher toward the seating, it wouldn't be fun to skate on a rake like that, and I am sure that digging out inside would be pretty expensive, and disrupt the space too much.
The seating rake is not that steep. More like 20' from the lowest point of the theatre (down by the screen). If it were around 30' to the last row of the theatre, that would mean that there would be about 30 rows in the theatre (12" is the standard rise on seating levels) if I remember correctly most levels have 1 step between them. I am very sure that there are not 30 rows in the Imax.
*** This post was edited by cp1984 on 1/7/2002. ***
P>quot;Directed by a Skater who used to direct Stars on Ice and was the resident director for Charles Schulz's ice arena quot;/P>
P>FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #bcd7f3">Was this one of the skatersof Stars on Ice?nbsp; I was sure one of the skaters was the main director for Stars.nbsp; Does the Knott's show ever have guest skaters?/P>
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Actually Stars On Ice over the past few years was Directed by Scott Hamilton, but when they first started, Karen Kresge was the director.
There are principal skaters hired for the show at Knott's. The pair skaters and the male and female solo skaters have in the past been competition skaters in some form or another.
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