Restraints

Will they be like raptor? With the little seat-bealt in between the bottom tof the restraint and the crotch of the seet? I was looking at the trains in the new pics and didn't see any. So, where will they be? Or will there not be any?

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Look I Can Fly...

It looks like there will be belts and clips on the side of the restraints and will connect to the sides of the seat. I see somethign on the sides that looks like straps.

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- Chris -
http://www.thepointol.com/~simplycp
Computer Science - Ashland University
Witches' Wheel/Monster - 2002
3rd Shift Trash Removal - 2001

Yup, the belt's on the sides, just like on the Impulse down the road...

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--Greg
My Home
MF count: 52

...and the restraints are not the usual ratcheting restraints that most other inverted coasters have. Again, like S:UE, I'm not sure exactly how they work, but they will go as far as you want them to, without having to worry about any distance between your stomach and the harness.
You really want to know how it works? :)

The bar is attached to a pair of hydraulic cylinders. Under the back of the seat is a hydraulic accumulator. You pull the bar down, the cylinder stretches out and fluid fills the bottom of the cylinder. A solenoid valve allows fluid to flow from the bottom of the cylinder to the accumulator to the top of the cylinder; a check valve lets fluid go the other way (from the top of the cylinder to the accumulator to the bottom of the cylinder).
When the bar is locked, fluid can flow through the check valve (the bar can come down) but not through the solenoid valve (the bar can't go up). When power is applied and the solenoid valve opens, fluid can go either way so the bar can open.

I hope that makes sense. Today was a long day and I really should be in bed by now...

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Ok...engleish version please:) Ok, here's the question......ARE there seatbelt like things:)

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~I'm One Of Those Voices Inside Your Head~

Yes, there is a safety belt, attached to the outboard side of the shoulder bar (assuming it hasn't been changed) which fastens into a buckle on the side of the seat.

As to how it works in english, you need to understand one thing: Fluids cannot be compressed. Therefore, if you have a cylinder which is filled with fluid, and you have no way for that fluid to get out of the cylinder, there is no way for the cylinder to move. It's the basic principle behind all hydraulic systems.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Thankyou:) I get it now, just a lil slow, that's all:)

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~I'm One Of Those Voices Inside Your Head~

See... That one post made my visit to GTTP worthwhile. :)

There are two buckles on the side of the seat (if it is like V2 or SUE), but no one I've seen can easily fit into the buckle furthest back. The front one is a tight fit for a lot of people as well. However, the seats were manufactured with a lot of holes on the side (where you could conceivably connect the buckle), so maybe CP will bring one further forward so less will be turned away. Of course, it'd have to be a safe distance...

I've been able to use the farther-back buckle on S:UE, depending on what I was wearing that day -- if I have my belt bag on, no, if not then usually I can make it. Not that I CHOOSE to do so anymore, but I can use it.

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--Greg
My Home
MF count: 52

Not entirely true Dave. Liquids tend to be incompressible. Gases are also fluids, and as with air, can compress quite well.

I disagree Bill. I know I'm in chem I, but the definition of a liquid is something like "matter which has a definite mass and definite volume." If a liquid has definite volume, it can only be compressed to a limit.

You might be thinking of how a gas can flow and act similar to a liquid. That's what I'm thinking...

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Tommy Penner - Variable X
"If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence you tried."

But gases can take on properties of a liquid. Just like a solid can take one properties of a liquid. I beleive solids like that are called superfluids. It's quite neat actually, but off topic I guess.

Anyways on the topic at hand, if you compress a gas enough it becomes a fluid. Propane for example. Liquid in the cylinder, gas when it escapes.

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- Chris -
http://www.thepointol.com/~simplycp
Computer Science - Ashland University
Witches' Wheel/Monster - 2002
3rd Shift Trash Removal - 2001

Yes, but once compressed into its liquid state, it is no longer compressible! Which, again, is the point behind hydraulics. We're dealing with hydraulic fluids (pick any that you happen to like) which remain liquid in the system, and their noncompressibility is what makes the system work reliably.

All this Chemistry stuff is making my head hurt, and it really has nothing to do with the hydraulics used on Wicked Twister. :)

I thought I was the resident smart-ass here! :)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Yeah, I know most hydraulics work in fluids. I like to choose water just because of the use of hydro.

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- Chris -
http://www.thepointol.com/~simplycp
Computer Science - Ashland University
Witches' Wheel/Monster - 2002
3rd Shift Trash Removal - 2001

Jeff's avatar

As long as I continue to be the resident jackass, Dave. ;)

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Jeff
Webmaster/GTTP, Sillynonsense.com
"As far as I can tell it doesn't matter who you are. If you can believe, there's something worth fighting for..." - Garbage, "Parade"

How much smaller would you have to be to ride WT than to ride Raptor...It seems like its a large difference between the two.

Taken from the CP website:

Raptor:HEIGHT REQUIREMENT54" tall or taller

Wicked Twister:What is the height requirement for Wicked Twister?
Riders must be at least 52" tall to ride Wicked Twister.


I never thought of it this way, but this could be considered a "build-up" for smaller coaster riders for the big thing (Raptor). Seems intriguing to me for some reason, but oh well!!!

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Mantis Crew '02 - Where's the unload station at?!? ;-)

Also on the website, it says that there will be seats available to test out at the entrance to see if you can fit in them. Scroll down to where it says Guests of Exceptional Size

http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/trips/tips.cfm

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Brent Haley
Gemini Crew '02

I never said gases were liquids. I said they are fluids.

1 a : having particles that easily move and change their relative position without a separation of the mass and that easily yield to pressure :

If she flows, she be fluid. ;)

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