Recycling

Question for everyone...With all of the bottles they go through selling those $3.00 20oz's does anyone else think that they should start to recycle some of those? What I mean is that they should have seperate containers for recycling bottles. I think that it would generate positive feedback and would also be a great thing for the environment.

Now they may already have something like this in motion I dont know. Also, I dont know if they have a bottle return in Ohio but it would be great if they do.

I just hate to see all of those 20oz bottles, thousands I am sure, go into landfills.

There is already a recycling program in place behind the scenes.

OH does not have bottle deposit. It would be a good idea, but there are two problems.

A) People will just throw their bottles in the trash anyway.

B) People will throw trash in the recycling containers.

A doesn't really hurt anything, but B then means someone will need to sort out the bottles from the trash. This is not only a crappy job, but a boring a tedious one.

Like I said it would be a great idea, but problem B is a pretty big hurdle to clear.

Done correctly, neither of those issues is really a problem.

The answer is something called "front-end separation" and it involves separating recyclables from garbage at a point in the waste stream between the collection point and the landfill. The process can be highly mechanized, and can recover more recycleable material than most people will bother to sort. I don't know if Cedar Point's waste handling company does this or not, but it is a process most efficiently handled not at the park, but at the tipping point. If the waste company does front-end separation, then it is the best of both worlds: the park only has one set of garbage cans, all the trash goes into one set of dumpsters, and gets hauled by one truck to a single collection point. Then the waste management company handles the garbage in the most efficient manner they can, extracting anything that is worth extracting, and landfilling, incinerating or composting the rest.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Here in Medina county, our garbage all goes together. We have a recycling plant that handles the process for us.

It's funny, because when we have parties, people are always asking us, "Where should I put my beer bottle?" With the rest of the garbage, of course!

I know CP tries to recycle aluminum cans, didn't know about plastics.

You really DON'T want a bottle deposit law in Ohio. It's a real pain in the arse for the consumer, retailer and distributer. We've have one here in Michigan for several years (decades). Is it better for the enviroment? Yes. Is it better for you, as an idividual? No. Higher prices result (Can anyone say, "$4.00 a 20oz?")

YIKES!

MrScott
*** Edited 6/9/2005 12:00:04 AM UTC by MrScott***

In the employee areas there are recycle bins for aluminum cans. It does make sense that whoever sorts CP's garbage would pick out all the recycleable stuff.

Call me a cynic, but I always suspected- and I still to this day, that the Aluminum Recycling containers in the Employee Break Areas were Placebo cans. Meant to shut up empoyees from noting in the "Employee/Management Committee" weekly the total lack of recycling at the park.

In fact the only thing I ever really saw recycled at CP was steel and refridgerators and air conditioners.

But then again I'm a tree hugger.

Recycling is a waste of money and time. It costs more to recycle than most people know. We are not running out of trees either. It is cheeper to throw stuff out, build landfills and then ski resorts over them. :) And we are not running out of stuff like most think. research it, you'll see. sorry to offend anyone.

During the mid-90's, I regularly saw Park Services in the old boneyard actively recycling. In fact, if I recall correctly, there was even an Alcoa Recycling Company truck back there.

Last year there was a 'cans only' small roll-off behind the back of the park, so I think they really do stick the cans in there.

I think recycling is a good idea. I do i at home. I dont do it for money the only thing i get paid for is pop cans. Take alot of heat from reletives about it being a waste of time. I still believe recycle not create more landfills. plastic doesnt decompose.

coasterguy76 said:
Recycling is a waste of money and time. It costs more to recycle than most people know. We are not running out of trees either. It is cheeper to throw stuff out, build landfills and then ski resorts over them. :) And we are not running out of stuff like most think. research it, you'll see. sorry to offend anyone.

Wow, you're a really uninformed moron. Just bury it. No one will care. Good thinking.

I swear I'm going to issue an IQ test before you can post on here.

Not really, I have seen many articles and documentaries that show "Most" recycling is "Out of Hand" starting back in the 80's when people heard we we are out of landfill space which is an ABSOLUTE MYTH. No they have all these communities searching through trash and spending lots of money doing so. when it has been prooven that it is not saving the world and infact, is wasting money. Do it if you want, that is fine but, most of these companies that say they sort it for you do not. and the moron comment, I am not the one sporting the 1990 wedge cut and sun-in hi lights jeff!

My friend's wife has such big dreams of being rich, she saved all of her cans for a month (she drinks pop like an addict) and threw them in bags in the basement. He kept telling her to get rid of them and she kept talking about how much money she was going to make off them and how she was going to be rich.

Even if she put forth the effort to drag them all to the recycling center, I think she would have made like $9 or something. We just tossed them in the dumpster one day and she flipped out on him for ruining her dreams.

-Josh

well yeah, in Ohio those cans were worth nothing. But up heyah in Michigan, it is worth .10 each. Add that up over a couple parties and you can get a decent chunk o change at the grocery store.

coasterguy76 said:
...when it has been prooven that it is not saving the world and infact, is wasting money.

Wasting money? What does it have to do with money? Recycling isn't about money. You're pretty stupid if you think the planet is one big pile of infinite resources. You can't be very bright either if you think burying something that won't decompose is a good idea.

coasterguy76 said:
I am not the one sporting the 1990 wedge cut and sun-in hi lights jeff!

What the hell does that even mean? Is that your way of trying to make an intellectual challenge? Moron.

Bottle deposits made sense when you were taking the bottles back to the bottler to be washed, sterilized, refilled and resold. I'm sure I am not the only one here who remembers the 8-packs of 16-ounce glass bottles. For those, deposits make sense.

On aluminum cans and plastic bottles, which cannot be re-used, deposits make no sense at all because there is no mechanism to cover the cost of handling all those bottles and cans. Remember, the $0.10 was paid by the consumer when the product was purchased, and is fully refunded to the consumer. Even the revenues from recycling the materials...particularly for the plastic bottles, which cannot be recycled into more plastic bottles...won't cover the costs of collection, transportation, and disposal (unless you are the remanufacturer, sending a bottle off for recycling is, in fact, disposal). The manufacturer and retailer get stuck with all those costs for handling deposit bottles, and guess how they recoup those costs: through higher product price.

I wish we had front-end separation here in Columbus as Jeff has in Medina. Instead we have these dubious recycling programs designed by nutcases: we can separate our trash into several containers and get the recyclables picked up for an additional fee, or we can load our garbage into our cars and take it to collection points for recycling, or we can just throw the recyclables out with the garbage. Guess which option is the most popular around here. :(

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Wow. That is the first time I ever saw anyone try to stick it to Jeff by bashing his hair. I wish I could have a haircut worthy of being bashed.

Here in South Florida we have trash and recyclables separated at the house. We throw papers in bin A, glass, aluminum, plastic in bin B, and then put it out by the curb weekly. A separate truck comes by and picks it up and, judging by the neighborhood, I think most folks comply. There is no additional fee for doing so. It is all lumped on the garbage bill.