possible legal issues???

Hello Although I have been reading the posts for the past 5 months regarding the new coaster I have never posted here personally.However I thought this maybe interesting to a few people here.
As I do every morning I check out the financial section on yahoo and on cedar fair stocks.It was posted(now this is just what I read and I have no knowledge of whether it is true or not)that Cedar Point may be considering suing the ride manufacturer of Dragster.No details were provided and who knows how true this could be but considering the amount of downtiime they are experiencing maybe they are frustrated enough to to do this.
Cedar Point has a long history with Intamin and I doubt they would risk the relationship they have but has it come to this level?Just curious what other people think of this.

I doubt a lawsuit would happen. Intamin has helped CP break so many records it ain't even funny. Yes, opening season for TTD has been a bit on the downside, but it takes time to work the kinks out. MF and WT, from what I heard, had lots of downtime in their opening seasons. They were both made by Intamin. But we'll see what happens.

Are you talking about a post by some anonymous jerk in the Yahoo stock forums? Never take any of that seriously, it's all crap posted by bored kids and day traders.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of performance clause in Intamin's contract, but we may never know.

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I'm sure with TTD being cutting-edge technology, the contract signed by both parties has a clause for this type of problem. CP probably could not do anything this year, but next year is probably a different story. A time limit clause was also (I'm assuming) put in the contract so CP could gain some money back for TTD or possibly money back from advertising.

I know when Arrow put in the Bat at PKI there was a major design flaw and the ride was up and down for 4 years, and eventually had to be taken down. Arrow than put in Vortex free of charge.

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what was the major design flaw??

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Yes Jeff I was referring to the post by the anonymous jerk on yahoo.I like to lok just to see what the "investors" think about the situation at hand.I think Cedar Point knew what they were getting into with this project and knew the difficulties associated with it and threw in a clause or two regarding performance with the coaster.Most coasters have the start up jitters and take time and this one is no different.Just hope it gets up and running before I get there just to ride it once please.Cedar Point and Intamin are great together great park with great rides and I hope that this situation doesnt change that.

lpth5 said:
what was the major design flaw??

The Bat at PKI was the first suspended coaster. They designed it w/o banking the track around turns which caused major stress on the hydraulics that are on each car. ID is the same type of ride but with the proper banking.

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ID is the same type of ride but with the proper banking.

Not to split hairs, but having ridden both rides.. there are SEVERAL differeneces. They (Arrow) started from ground zero when they went for the second "generation" of susspended coaster.

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Didn't Paramount sue the builders of SoB or the company? I remember reading something about that. I don't know how likely it is that Cedar Point will do something similar with Intamin but, TTD sure is causing a lot of stress among the folks at Cedar Point who have to constantly tell everyone that TTD is down and apologize.

Browntggrr took the words right off my keyboard(first post). In the contract CP signed, I would guess it said something about expecting the downtime of the ride, and/or not being able to sue them for the first year the ride is in operation.

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drag8903, I didn't hear about that but, I do know that PKI was the manufacturer of the ride.

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drag8903...i'm pretty sure there was a lawsuit involved with PKI and the company that built SOB. it had something to do with the supports they built...i don't really remember the whole story
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Jeff said:
Are you talking about a post by some anonymous jerk in the Yahoo stock forums? Never take any of that seriously, it's all crap posted by bored kids and day traders.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of performance clause in Intamin's contract, but we may never know.
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Jeff, you may want to be very cautious about giving financial advice! I know that you mean only the best but there are way too many morons with a greedy lawyer on retainer! Just a thought.

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PKI built Son of Beast themselves, but had Werner Stengel design it. After many days of downtime in its opening year, I had read in the local paper that PKI was going to sue both the lumber supply company as well as Werner Stengel himself. I'm not sure what ever became of the case.

geez cant PKI build a coaster and not sue the manufactuer or the builder!! lol
also, the bat had no banking around the corners, wouldnt that cause alot of lat g's??
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*** This post was edited by lpth5 6/18/2003 9:54:01 PM ***

That would be ridiculous to me and I hope that it is not true, innovation will only raise the bar everytime Intamin and Cedar Point create something like this. They have much more to gain from this downtime with the rest of the engineering world than running it (though that would be great).

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As far as PKI goes with SOB, The Roller Coaster Corporation of America built it, and yes PKI did sue them and the suppliers of the wood, do your research!!!!!!! Werner Stengel did design it, and no, he was not sued.

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*** This post was edited by raptorforce 6/19/2003 1:23:27 AM ***

raptorforce said:
As far as PKI goes with SOB, The Roller Coaster Corporation of America built it, and yes PKI did sue them and the suppliers of the wood, do your research!!!!!!! Werner Stengel did design it, and no, he was not sued.
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*** This post was edited by raptorforce 6/19/2003 1:23:27 AM ***

FYI, they did the research SoB was manufactured by PKI.

This is just a tad off topic though...

www.pki.com/attractions_rides_featured.jsp?id=703

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*** This post was edited by Browntggrr 6/19/2003 3:32:38 AM ***
*** This post was edited by Browntggrr 6/19/2003 3:34:36 AM ***
*** This post was edited by Browntggrr 6/19/2003 3:36:46 AM ***

Sorry about that. (crawls under rock) I thought I was the one who did the right research.

Anyways, it is fledgling technology, I am 100% sure they were prepared for alot of downtime.
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with all the downtime ttd is having opening season, i am glag i am not goin till next year
hehehehehe

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