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Looks like the base of the seat has been redone quite a bit

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The seats are definitely lower with the rows now all in line. They're also now connected at the base as one whole piece.

Also, tuned mass dampers were added to supports on both sides of the incline to the tower to help with the track sway.


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That's brilliant, like a skyscraper only at the bottom. Seeing the entire wheel bogie would be ideal, because I can see the connection to the side and upstops are very different. I figured the seats would be lower (reference).


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Does anyone have a picture of these dampers?

Dampers look super cool.

I asked Ryan the Mechanic to do an in-depth video on the train changes. I am intrigued on all the things they have done.

I can't wait to ride it.

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I have a video of the damper on launch side in action, they definitely take the majority of the sway off those sections of track. The ride does not have any noticeable shaking or side to side movement anymore. However, there is one thing that we noticed after about a dozen rides on all 3 trains this weekend. The black train is noticeably rougher than blue and silver, it is nothing compared to last season though. This wasn't just from one spot on the train either. We rode black in rows 2, 5 and 7 so it isn't just a front vs. back of train type thing as it appears to be the entire train. The train also vibrated quite a bit on the sharp turns coming back into the station as well as the transfer track, most likely from the curvature of the wheels on the sharp turns but it was worse than silver/blue. I am not sure what order the trains were returned in so maybe the black train has the fewest laps and isn't broken in yet.

TT2 is an incredible ride and is so much better than the original in my opinion. The reverse launch and that airtime on the spike is one of my favorite elements of any coaster I have been on. The ride operated almost all day Monday in cold, foggy conditions without any mechanical issues or delays. I am told there was a delay or 2 in the morning but we did not experience any and we were basically in line / riding from around 1pm through 7pm. If that type of operation can keep up the majority of the time this will end up being a home run for Cedar Point and Zamperla.

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Ryan the ride mechanic with some observations on TT2 Changes

Good coverage of the changes with the ride in that video. All I can say about the speed is that I still feel like I'm going to fly out of that thing going over the top hat, so much so that it still makes my instincts kick in and hold on tight just like last year.

As far as the number of dummies on the MF trains I don't think they were gradually reducing how many were on the trains. I could be wrong as I wasn't paying that much attention to it over the weekend but it seems like it was only the first 5 or 6 rows that had the dummies. SV was the same way, Saturday afternoon they had to take a train off and the one sitting on the maintenance track only had 5 or 6 rows of water dummies as well. The crew had to drain them all and remove them to get it on the track. One of the ride operators doing the announcements did a great job making that 25 minute delay well worth it.

good to hear that it sounds like it still is generally flying over the tophat (compared to TTD1). That's one of the most exciting things for me: that pop at the top of the tophat (in fact, it was plenty thrilling/scary in the front portion of the train on the original TTD).

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Just something to add to this that I haven't seen mentioned yet. The other day, while waiting in the station, I noticed that the spine of the chassis are noticeable thicker than last years version. Meaning that, with the new seat and wheel design, these trains are likely much heavier than the 2024 version.


Credit to Rustic and Doofles on YouTube for the offride footage where I got the reference pics for.


-Adam G- The OG Dragster nut

Jeff's avatar

I'm not convinced that the seats are lower, but I have to take your word for it that the back row isn't spread out given the angles I've seen. It's curious that the seats don't have the cutouts to reduce weight. And given Adam's comment about a thicker chassis, overall the thing looks more rigid with fewer parts overall. They touted the ability to strip down all of the bolt-on things, but maybe they pivoted to fewer pieces and more welds.

The wheel bogies have a very different bracket down to the side and upstop wheels, so I assume that was the reason for the lateral shaking.


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It looks like instead of a bracket raising the passenger "floor" ~6" above the chassis, the chassis is much thicker and the floor rest directly on it.

At first glance the floor and seats do look lower since there little space between the chassis and the floor, but maybe it's an optical illusion? The floor looks like it's in the same relative height above the track (about even with the top of the load wheels) so It seems like the seats would be in the same relative position. I have not seen it this year in person to have a hard opinion, but looking at these photos once you adjust for that illusion they look similar in height. Without the angles and 3D is hard to say though.

One thing I did enjoy about the higher seats in TTD2 vs TTD1 was it a seemed wilder ride down the top hat since the heartline was a little elevated. So hoping TTD2.1 rides the same.


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So, the front seat in the blue train's car there, is that lap bar different to accommodate larger riders? And if so, how?


Brandon

Joe E:

One thing I did enjoy about the higher seats in TTD2 vs TTD1 was it a seemed wilder ride down the top hat since the heartline was a little elevated. So hoping TTD2.1 rides the same.

The top hat is just as crazy as it was last year so I doubt you will be disappointed. The original version of this ride was outside of my top 10 favorite rides, this new version just might be taking my #1 spot. Since I get to go to the park quite a bit I usually don't ride that much as I have all season to enjoy the rides. That being said I have started a habit of marathoning TT2, I might be addicted as I lost count of how many rides I have had but it has to be well over 30. If Millenium was not struggling this season it might be different but no matter what TT2 is an incredible ride and a huge plus for the park. While the ride does go down for the occasional maintenance issue it is nowhere near as bad as the original and so far this season might be one of the most reliable large coasters outside of Gatekeeper and Valravn in terms of downtime (weather related closures not included).

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Jeff:
I'm not convinced that the seats are lower

You're definitely correct. Not sure why but they "appeared" lower when I first started examining the modified trains. I knew for certain that the second row seats were closer together (and welded to the frame) but, for some reason, I also thought they were slightly higher that the first row seats in the first version. Joe E may be right, that it could just be an optical illusion. And given that the chassis is now, likely, heavier with the beefier spine, wheel bogies, and beefier seat configuration, I'm curious if that brought the center of gravity down a tad more to help offset the weight of riders being that high.

djDaemon:
So, the front seat in the blue train's car there, is that lap bar different to accommodate larger riders? And if so, how?

I could be wrong but I think it's some kind of ADA modification. Still not fully sure how it works though.

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-Adam G- The OG Dragster nut

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In those photos above, if you draw horizontal lines from the top of the kick plate and/or the fake spoiler, you can see that the seats are the same height relative to those pieces. I can't tell if they're collectively a different height from the rails.


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