Parks afraid to take next "BIG" step?

Ok. In 1989, we got the wonderful Magnum XL 200. After that, why didn't we see or hear of any plans to go up to 300ft.? I mean after MF was buil, Heide Park had plans for that 400 footer. I know they scrapped the plans but I think it was because they were afraid that nobody would like it. Money probably also came in somewhere but bear with me. I think CP is kinda "paving" the way for bigger things. Will it take CP to make the next big step up to 400ft.? And once again "pave" the way?

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I think so, but not for a couple more years. Just look at the timespan between Maggie and Millie.
Jeffrey Spartan's avatar
CP is the industry leader in rides for nothing peeps..With them its most likely always gonna be the biggest and badest at the time! I mean if your gonna do it why not do it big and with more power eh? Man I sounded like Tim Taylor there..grunt grunt!

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There was 11 years between Gemini (first 100 footer) and Magnum, and 11 years between Magnum and MF. I hope we see this pattern broken, I don't want to wait until 2011 to see 400 ft.

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Why do you peeps think this some planned course of action or pattern or 11 yr theory?

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The future coarse of events are not necessarily determined by patterns or events from the past. I/E 2 year coaster pattern and 11 year height record.

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Fear has nothing to do with it. You build what you can afford and pay for by way of attracting new guests for it.

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Technology has a little something to do with it too. If the elevator cable lift isn't around I'm not sure Cedar Point jumps at 300 feet as quickly as they did. Without a successful and reliable launch coaster, I don't know that 400 feet would even be discussed now.

Chief Wahoo said:
If the elevator cable lift isn't around I'm not sure Cedar Point jumps at 300 feet as quickly as they did.

Nah, if you remember Steel Dragon 2000 is over 300` and has a standard chain lift.

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It's not really all that standard, because it's actually two chain lifts, the drive "changing hands" about midway up.

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Jeff
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cyberdman,

What I was getting at is that the elevator lift allows for the greater angle of ascent which in turn means the lift doesn't require as much space. (Not that space is an issue but for this particular location in the park that was important.)

In addition, the speed of the cable keeps capacity up to the figures Cedar Point is comfortable with.

I could get into a whole new topic of the construction of the wheels and so forth but I just think we wouldn't be discussing 400 feet if the technology didn't move as quick as it has.

I think that 11 year pattern inbetween Gemini, Magnum, and MF is all coincidence.

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One thing to keep in mind is that very very very few parks have the capital and the land to build a coaster 250ft+ let alone 300 or even break the 400 level. I think CP will be the first to break the 400ft level, time will tell if its going to be next year or down the road. What interesting to me is that throughout the mid and early 90's very few hypers were built. It wasn't until '99 when Intamin and B&M released thier hypers that the Hyper coaster became a standard park ride and nearly every major park had to have one and now most of them do. Though I don't think we will see as many 300ft coasters built as we did 200fts. So I don't think parks are afraid, I think they just don't have the capital and the land.

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*** This post was edited by The MF Mole 8/8/2002 8:20:22 PM ***

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