Ohio Revised Code

Hi, I just signed up on this site, but have been looking through it for close to a year now. I accually work at Kings Island and I have a quick question that someone on here probably can help me with.

Does anybody know the section of the Ohio Revised Code that requires all guests to obey operators instructions?

Thanks for any help!

"Ohio Revised Code 1711.551 requires that riders must obey all warnings and directions regarding this ride and behave in a manner that will not cause or contribute to injury to themselves or others. Failure to comply is a misdemeanor."

Straight from a photo I took of one of PKI's safety signs this summer.

wonderful! thank you very very much!

And for more information: http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=126_HB_0064

Also of interest on that page is the cost of getting a ride certified. Not cheap to certify a coaster...that's for sure. Not that I'd expect it to be.

Most dont obey the rules. I think they need to add to the ride safety rules code. Make it a fine of 250.00 or more. It will get more people to obey it if they have to pay fines when they disobey the code.

You know the signs say to keep arms, hands, etc. in the car at all times. Many of us would be guilty and would have to pay the fines. I'd even bet that you've put your hands up, Dalefan329. :)

Basically, the line is there to A) release the park of liability (if you get hurt because you didn't listen, you were breaking the law and will have a hard time proving a case against the park) and B) give the park some leverage to fall back on in the case of unruly guests.

But that's also why on nearly every single park photo (and especially the close ups) you will see that riders have their hands down on the grab bar.

If you had a good lawyer though, that wouldn't hold up in court. All you'd have to do is collect photos from the internet showing entire trains of people with their hands up (or go to the park and take your own photos). Unless CP could prove they prosecuted everyone with their hands up, their argument wouldn't hold up. Its all well and good they have a sign, but if they only selectively enforce the "law", you could get out of any fine imposed by them. I'd even argue that if they sell photos of people with their hands up, they're knowingly allowing people to not hold on. Said person with their hands up went up to a counter and PAID for a photo. So, its not like CP could argue they didn't know who the people with their hands up were.

So, that sign doesn't release the park from liability, it just helps.

We're not talking about someone being fined by CP (or the state) for putting their hands up.

I'm talking about someone who hurts themselves by having their hands "outside the ride vehicle". They'd have a hard time with your situation because CP doesn't have to actively enforce the rule in order for it to take effect.

I have actually yet to see a photo of a ride in motion with its rider's hands up. All of my posters, post cards, and pictures I've seen in brochures, guides, website, etc. rider's are holding on.

^ yes, but its not hard to find photos of people with their hands up.

Its just that you won't find it on most of the official stuff.

I know what you mean John, I was just saying they're very careful about their photos.

Last time I checked, Cedar Point SOLD thousands of photos a day of people with their hands up.

So, basically, CP is providing you photographic proof of yourself breaking the law, and you're paying them for it.

They're also providing evidence that they're ok with people breaking the "law". That was my point. I find it hard to believe any court would hold up a claim by Cedar Point saying that putting your arms up is unsafe since they allow it on a regular basis.

I couldn't disagree more.

They just recommend it I guess.

This is why all brochures and advertisement have one thing in common.
http://www.cedarpoint.com/_upload/inside_the_park/rides/roller_coasters/millennium_force/millennium_force_02.jpg

Jeff Young said:
You know the signs say to keep arms, hands, etc. in the car at all times. Many of us would be guilty and would have to pay the fines. I'd even bet that you've put your hands up, Dalefan329. :)

Lol. I keep my hands on the bars. :)

Yes, for legal reasons, to protect the park, they will never use any video or photos where riders have their arms raised; they are always holding on. If the riders in promotional media had their hands up, the park would be essentially saying that it was okay.

Selling pictures to guests with their hands up isn't necessarily saying it's okay, but the park still isn't telling the guest that it is okay to do so.

Putting one's hands up is a long-lived tradition on roller coasters and other rides. It would simply be impossible to enforce the rule completely on every guest that enters the park. If something does happen, however, the park always has the rule, and the law, to fall back on.

John hit the nail on the head. The rule is in place to protect the park and release them from liability. It does also give them a certain amount of leverage.

I agree with you guys that's why the promotional media and signs all have hands on the restraints. However, I'm just being the devil's advocate and saying any good lawyer would win a case if someone was injured by having their hands up. If people can win lawsuits for being too big to fit in a coaster and falling out because they weren't properly restrained, they can win a lawsuit for hitting their hands on something by not holding on.