Millennium Force cable lift

Jim Dines

Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:36 AM

How is Leviathan (Canada's Wonderland) able to utilize a chain lift (what appears to be a chain lift) when Millennium Force utilizes a cable lift for weight reasons? Aren't they both around the same lift height?

Last edited by Jim Dines, Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:36 AM
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three7five

Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:46 AM

I could be wrong, but I think the primary reason for the cable lift is due to the steep lift hill on Millennium Force. They needed a better way to fit a lift hill in a smaller space and a cable lift was more practical.

Leviathan looks to have a traditional B&M ascent and is not quite as steep, allowing a chain to be more practical in some way. I don't know if there is some concern with the amount of force put on a chain with steeper hills that made them turn to a cable lift for MF or what, because Fahrenheit at Hershey uses some kind of a double chain mechanism for its 90 degree lift, yet it has much smaller trains.

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rpbobcat

Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:16 AM

When they built MF we were told at one of the Coastermanias that the reason
for using a cable lift was speed up the lift hill.
They said using tha cable lift gave them the abitiy to run 3 trains and 
they needed that to make the ride's capacity viable.
 
 

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Jeff

Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:09 PM
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It's only a speed issue. Do you think the weight of the chain would matter relative to the weight of the train?


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JuggaLotus

Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:28 PM
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Wasn't chain weight one of the reasons that Steel Dragon has a double chain?

Not that that ride should be used as a guide for how to engineer a ride or anything.


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Dvo

Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:03 PM
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^Agreed. Those "trains" are more like multiple yachts linked together. I feel like a triple-chain may soon be in order on Steel Dragon :)


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Invertalon

Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:38 PM

If I did not forget all my statics:

If the train weighed something like 10,000lbs lets say on a 30* lift hill, the chain itself would only be 'responsible' for around 5,000lbs of weight, ignoring friction. The rest would transfer into the structure of the lift-hill.

Switching to a 45* lift would increase the chain load up to about 7071 lbs, an increase of approx 42%.

Additionally, going to a 55* lift would increase to 8192 lbs. And of course, 90* the full load on the chain of 10,000 lbs.

B&M has been using steeper lifts for some time now. The cable lift is mainly for speed. Lift motors are more high-torque then anything, not built for speed.

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