Micro Magnum

I work as a sweep at Cedar Point for the 2007 season. One of the many areas I must sweep is Kiddy Kingdom. All day long I hear, "Mom, isnt there a coaster to ride in here?" (refering to kiddy kingdom.) I think it's about time for Cedar Point to at least consider building another kiddie coaster maybe along with a bigger attraction such as Maverick.

My idea would be for a "Micro Magnum" for the kids. It could be placed between the games section and Kiddy Kingdom. Red track and silver supports. I hear a bunch of kids say that they are too small to ride Magnum (or too scared) this could be sort of a confidence booster; who knows? Maybe like a 40 foot drop. I dunno. Some kind of small coaster. Then CP would have 18. . .but who's counting:)

Do you think it would be a good idea for Cedar Point to build a kiddy/family coaster anytime soon?

I think Jr. Gemini and Woodstock's Express are sufficient as far as kiddie coasters go. Children at that age only need a few roller coasters, because they have so many small spinning/flat rides to ride. Then once they get a little bigger, they can go on Gemini, Wildcat, Blue Streak, and others. I think CP is a good fit for children. Kings Island has a ridiculous kiddie land, and being my home park, I hated it, because every year they installed a kiddie coaster was another year wasted that they could have used to put in a bigger coaster.

Woodstock Express is a very nice kiddie coaster, pretty intense for the type of ride it is. I don't think a micro Magnum is necessary. I suppose they could put one in that is an out and back like Magnum, but I think they have a good kiddie coaster lineup as it is now.

I think most, if not all kiddie coasters are designed so that the operator can maintain eyesight of the train in the event of something going wrong. It's doubtful that they would build something where the operator looses eye contact, imho. I guess they could add staff along the course to solve that problem, but why bother when they already have two great coasters for the kids?

The last thing Cedar Point needs is more red track.

^Yeah, you're right on that one.

I wouldn't say a kiddie coaster is what CP needs. It simply needs something that's more in between the kiddie coaster and the big ones. Something about the size of Maverick but not as intense. I'd say something in the category of Iron Dragon or Blue Streak, they are a little thrilling but not overly intesne.

I am currently in the kiddy areas far too much lately... with my 4 and 3 year olds. I think they could use another kiddy coaster that is not too intense but larger than Woodstock Express. A small out and back woodie or something along the lines of Zach's Zoomer at MIA would do nicely. It's not to boring for the adults but a great step up for the kids.
Maybe Light Blue Streak?

ATJazz said:I'd say something in the category of Iron Dragon or Blue Streak, they are a little thrilling but not overly intesne.

So what's wrong with Blue Streak? ...or Iron Dragon? ...or Wildcat? ...or Cedar Creek Mine Ride? ...or Disaster Transport? Aren't those all in the same category?

No their not... once the kid hits 46" they are tall enough to ride disaster transport and dragging iron. Draggin iron is a good step up for sure but disaster transport even though it's quite lame for an adult or even a teenager, for a 5-6 year old it's a little bit intense. If they brought back some more of the themeing and added a few lights or effects here and there so your not completely in the dark it would be cool. But that wont happen.

I think the better solution to this issue is putting a kiddie coaster up in or near Kiddieland. The two kiddie coasters they have now are in the back of the park, not up front where a majority of the kid's rides are. I still think a junior woodie (who know's who'll build it now that CCI is long gone) somewhere near Peanut's Playground would work.

...or basically what JTaylor said a few posts up :)

I think the Woodstock Express is a very good ride for young kids. We never had coasters to ride as kids. Though the Mine Ride was a 36" ride when I was a kid so that was the first coaster I rode. But I always considered it more of a kids coaster. Junior Gemini is for the really little kids. Woodstock is good for the slightly older kids. And by the time you get to 46", you can ride the Iron Dragon and Disaster Transport.

Now maybe I do not see the kiddie coaster as an issue because my kids are taller than average. So there have always been more coasters that my kids could ride than coasters they were ready to ride. But I think CP would need to look at the number of kids who are not serviced by the existing coasters who would be serviced by another kiddie coaster.

As for location, if your kid is spending much time on the kiddie rides in the front of the park, I don't think they are really ready for a coaster (at least not beyond what Junior Gemini offers).

A. Wild Mouse - kids love the spinning and the little hills aren't intimidating. They come prefabricated and go up quickly, with a small footprint. Just don't ask me to ride it! Makes me too dizzy.

I think the last thing CP need (or wants) is a coaster that is prefab. or a copy, no matter who the ride is for. We have gone so long without copying someone elses idea why start now? Even if it is just for a kiddie ride.

Otherwise I think that for now wildcat is good enough of a Wild Mouse. I also think that we need something in between Woodstock and the other rides.

^^ No Offense, but CP does what you call "copying". MaxAir is a copy to Delirium at Kings Island. TTD wasn't the original LIM. WT is not the first Twisted Impulse. It is unique, because of both twisting spikes, but it was not the first of its kind. You can CONSIDER almost every ride in the park a copy unless it is the first coaster of its kind. The companies make the rides and the parks buy them. The only true copies are the Six Flags Batman: the Rides.
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They're all copies, but the only true copies are the Batmans? Uh...Ok.

By the way, TTD isn't even a LIM coaster.

I understand what he (or she?) is saying Tim for the most part. A flat ride is a flat ride. For roller coasters I think it should be different. Putting the same ones in at several parks seems lame. But I guess when it comes down to it, if the coaster design is good, use it to make more money and save on designing.

I could see his point too if Cedar Fair had put Xcelerator at Cedar Point. But, they didn't. Top Thrill Dragster isn't even close to the same ride as Xcelerator. They used the same technology, but that was it. Plus, they did what they could to make Wicked Twister different than the other impulse twisters on the market at the time.

As far as I know, Cedar Fair hasn't installed any cloned coasters. Six Flags is another story. Not only are their Batman coasters clones, so are the new Superman flyers. There is a clone of Raptor, but Cedar Fair didn't put it in.

But, he said every coaster at Cedar Point is a copy of a coaster somewhere else. That's just not true.

I am a guy (for future reference).

By your statement FirstRide everyride that uses the same technology as a ride previous of it is a copy. That is essentialy what you are saying... Yes, I agree that Wicked Twister is very simialar to other rides of the same kind, but to this day I still have not heard of any other ride that is the exact same, which is what I was getting at. The fact that MaXair is a copy of Delirium is a moot point because the original topic was coasters.

I just re-read your statement and by this statement you are saying that. Blue Streak, Wicked Twister, Raptor, Mean Streak, Gemini, Maverick, Mantis, Iron Dragon are all "copies". To this i will straight up dissagree.

I think a junior wooden coaster would be nice for the kiddies. Something along the lines of the Little Dipper at Camden Park?