Maui Sands

thedevariouseffect's avatar

Now I just need to find a way to watch it, I saw a plot synopsis from TV guide, but can't find it anywhere lol


Corkscrew, Power Tower, Magnum, & Monster/ Witches Wheel Crew 2011

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Corkscrew, Power Tower, Magnum, & Monster/ Witches Wheel Crew 2011

Just watched it. Holy crap. What dirtbag owners. Shame on the city also for not addressing what is a serious health and safety problem!

djDaemon's avatar

Are there laws or ordinances that Maui Sands violated that would lead to city involvement?


Brandon

Anyone know if Robin Innes is still the marketing/PR guy there? I can't even imagine transitioning from Cedar Point to Maui Sands in a PR/media type role...

Maui Sands is not in the city of Sandusky. It is in Perkins Township.

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I just watched it. Maui Sands should be "next defunct attraction".

What? They treated half the building & closed the rest? You mean to tell me bedbugs won't or can't find there way back to the other side? They should have closed the whole dump. I feel skeeved out even thinking about driving past the place. Oh thats right, I won't because I will keep driving on the chausee.

I hope that girl got a job at Kalahari and the others find something too, those owners are quite a pair.

It's really surprising what water parks can get away with when it comes to safety violations. I've worked at a fairly large aquatics center for five years, and I had to quit at the end of this summer due to safety violations that were not being addressed by upper management even when it was brought to their attention multiple times.

I'm not sure about larger facilities, but health departments hand out public pool licenses independently of the department of agriculture. At my facility, the health department never inspected our water slides, water playground, or splash pad. They would only test water quality, check pool drains, and filtration systems.

The department of agriculture did conduct an inspection one time several years ago and was not pleased with the condition of many things in our facility. The concerns were supposed to be addressed, but management ignored them and nothing got fixed. However, nothing much came of the inspection because management. Honestly, I am not sure how our facility was allowed to remain open.

One of our 20+ year old slides has cracks in the fiberglass at one of the structural supports. While one of the other slides has a support yolk that has rusted entirely through. Both slides need to be re-gelcoated and give riders fiberglass burns. The water playground also has major rust problems and frequently cuts children. Our facility was also allowed to get away with having a hole in the pool deck covered with plywood for over a whole year! The splash pad at our aquatics facility also had a leak and maintenance dug a "well" in the equipment area and used a sump pump to pump ground water into the system. These are only some of the things I can think of.

Just thought I would share because I know first hand what aquatic centers can get away with...

jimmyburke said:

What? They treated half the building & closed the rest? You mean to tell me bedbugs won't or can't find there way back to the other side?

This idiocy doesn't shock me.

The building I work in has had a couple of isolated incidents of "potential bed bug sighting" where notices are sent out from building management and an outside firm is brought in to provide treatment over a weekend. Last year I went into the office one week and the cube I had reserved for that day had yellow caution tape across the entrance, and multiple signs posted to not enter.

I asked around, and found out that the prior Wednesday an employee sitting in that cube thought they had been bitten by something while sitting there. They taped off the cube (and only that cube) on Wednesday, and waited until weekend for treatment. The cube was still taped off the following Tuesday due to concern of residual effects of the "treatment".

Yes, building management believed treating the single cube days after the incident was sufficient to address the problem. Co-workers marveled at management's ability to teach the bug to stay put in one cube while waiting to be killed.

djDaemon said:
Are there laws or ordinances that Maui Sands violated that would lead to city involvement?

Yes. Having worked in both food services and pool management I can tell you both are regulated. This in MI. If Ohio laws for the same follow the same path as amusement parks they will be more stringent than the Michigan laws I’m referencing.

First, roaches in areas food is served and prepared. Immediate shutdown. Second, faulty safety equipment in pool areas. Here in MI we have an “opening” inspection (which can happen as late as late July) and one random inspection. All safety issues are checked along with pool chemical levels, unannounced. This place probably would have passed neither.

Lastly, why would hotel ownership allow this documentary to take place? Especially if the end result was an embarrassment to them?

I’d love to know the other properties this group of asshats owns. I’ll go put on my real estate agent hat and figure it out if need be but would love someone to volunteer the info (so I don’t stay there with my kids!)

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Swimmerdude said:
One of our 20+ year old slides has cracks in the fiberglass at one of the structural supports. While one of the other slides has a support yolk that has rusted entirely through. Both slides need to be re-gelcoated and give riders fiberglass burns.

I’m assuming there’s some sort of special epoxy to repair the water slides? Always made me wonder how CP Shores slides were able to get painted several years back. The material doesn’t look much different from a standard fiberglass stepladder. Working in the construction industry, it’s prohibited to paint fiberglass or wood step ladders. It may cover up cracks that develop and weaken the ladder.

MKSP, LLC. is the ownership group.

http://www.mkspllc.com/locations.html

Kirit Parmar and Sureshkumar Patel were the guys on the show.

Unless their website hasn't been udpated in years, they basically own a bunch of Dunkin Donuts and Maui Sands.

thedevariouseffect's avatar

I'm trying to find what they own in the area, but I'm not finding any good info. Here's some info worth compiling though:

--Property originally owned by Scott Emerson until he was convicted for trying to convert a land pension asset (adjacent property to Maui Sands). He was fined for this, as well as backpay for employees on payroll, etc. This closed the property from this point in November 2008, it was barely open it's first year (property built in 2008)

--Bank claims property / mortgage, looking for buyer from 2008 - 2011 (Charter One Bank). Bank assumes maint. and property tax costs for several years

--Jamal Lewis had interest in buying the property from the Bank for 3.0m in 2011, but it looks like J. Lewis backed out of the deal, I did find reference that it was also in part due to their financing being denied due to code violations, liens, etc. He has later bought a waterpark in Columbus, Ohio.

--Later in 2011, Charter One placed the property in an Auction for 2.5m, it was purchased by MKSP, LLC (also known as Sun Development, Inc.). This company retains American Resort Management, LLC. to manage the property in their initial reopening in May 2012. This contract looks to have ended, but I do not have a timeframe, but it is listed as a previous Portfolio item here.

--New owners still had a delinquent tax to the county for it's property tax. The new owners were paying what they believe the property was worth, not the actual taxes charged by the county.

--September 2016, waterpark restaurant closing operations due to failed health inspection for finding bugs within the restaurant (cockroaches). This was reopened in November the same year.

--December 2016, Hotel Impossible episode filmed, which should be the busy season for this place. Looking at the episode & shots taken, it does not look like this property was reaching occupancy.

--Trip Advisor June 2017 shows people advised this property is under New Management. Some reviews look positive, some do not.

Perspective Data:

--Looks like the property is not truly under new management. The parcels are still owned by Erie Shores, LLC, which was setup in 2011, with Sureskumar Patel being the contact on the Parcel.

--Previous taxes look to be paid off incrementally, current parcel tax looks to be paid completely, not sure if other county taxes are still outstanding. Parcel ID's 32-01216.000, 32-01216.003, and 32-01216.001

--If under new management / ownership, it's brand image still has not been enhanced. The website lists it's copyright as of 2014. Also for those into HTML, this website setup is pretty simple. All basic wordpress templates.

--Not sure what other properties these guys own. Looking at their website it only shows MD properties. Even the website they have barely lists it (only on their About page, not even their portfolio page). Regardless, they look to still own this property, so I'd just stay the hell away lol.


Corkscrew, Power Tower, Magnum, & Monster/ Witches Wheel Crew 2011

jimmyburke's avatar

First impressions mean a great deal to customers. It said the episode was filmed in December 2016. So, I have no way of knowing what day of the week or time of day the opening scene was except that it was daytime. The car pulls into a parking lot that is practically empty. This usually sends alarm bells to me. He points at the slides that protrude from the building, but the thing that caught my eye in those scenes was the unsightly weeds and lack of any attempt at landscaping or decent appearance around the grounds. Alarm bells.

Over the years when exiting rt.2 at 250, as I looked at Maui Sands it appeared to me to be second rate and rather shoddy looking at least when compared to the other 2 water parks in that vicinity. Is there really a market for all these parks or is it over saturated? Just thinking out loud.

Sir-Rub-A-Dub's avatar

That place would never be in the state it’s in if it was run by the folks at CEDAR POINT. (The greatest place on earth)

Paisley's avatar

^^ I don't know how they keep that many water parks going in one area. Is there five? Or is there even more than that?

Cp Shores, Rain, Castaway Bay, Kalahari, Great Wolf Lodge and Maui Sands. Unless there is another?


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Paisley's avatar

I think that's it but that seems like more than what should be supported by an area that size. Castaway, CP Shores and Kalahari are also connected to things a bit more substantial than a cheap hotel so I can understand how they keep enough business, so after you add Great Wolf into the mix how do Rain and Maui Sands make any business?

Joe E's avatar

Rain and Maui Sands looks like they are trying attract the budget travelers. I think they still need some sense of quality for a budget option though. The Quality Inn with Rain Water doesn't look that far behind Maui Sands in the dump category.

All that said, Maui Sands has a weekend rack rate of $200. Yikes!

Also there is a small outdoor water-park named Watering Hole near Port Clinton, just across the Route 2 Edison Bridge. A 15 minute drive from Sandusky if that . Changed hands a few times, but has new owners and looks like they are investing more into it, Attracts more of the island crowd, but in the summer certainly could compete with the smaller indoor water parks in Sandusky.

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