Mantis's Inclined Loop - An Inversion?

I've been wondering.. Why is Mantis's inclined loop considered an inversion? You don't actually go upside-down while going through the inversion. It's basically an overbank not an inversion, isn't it? Give me your thoughts on this.

-Tom

my thought is that its so overbanked but its not used for a turn you go in the same direction you started.. in any "overbank" thats not an inverion its usually to change direction

I was thinking about the 45 degree angle loop to, from a picture that I have of it. To me it look's like more a half inversion, or it is a full inversion put it feels like it isn't one whole one, while you ride it.

You ARE upside-down on the inclined loop. It is an inversion...

Well, you do make a 360 degree rotation, but your body is never perpendicular with the ground, like it is in any other inversion... It feels like an inversion though, and it pretty much looks like one, so...

This has been discussed so many times

I don't really remember talking about it that much? And, yeah I think it's an inversion.

-Eagle-

CPFan420, you've been around since July 21st. How would you know it's been talked about alot? I certainly don't remember talking about it since July 17 when I signed up...

It's because Cedar Point wants to have it both ways.

If Mantis' inclined loop is an inversion, then Millennium Force has three inversions.

If Millennium Force has no inversions, then Mantis' inclined loop, which does not get as close to fully inverted as Millennium Force's last turn, isn't an inversion.

And yet, Cedar Point claims that Mantis' inclined loop is an inversion and Millennium Force's overbanks are not. It's one of those great mysteries of the Universe, I guess.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

A mystere that will be talked about for the ages. Just like MF green train. *** Edited 9/2/2004 3:29:56 AM UTC by daniel smith***

First of all are you talking about the turn over the station? I think you are but if you are not my whole reply will be worthless.

I don't ever remembering Cedar Point saying that was one of the inversions on the Mantis.

The ride op says Mantis will turn you upside down 4 times and I believe being turned upside down means you are inverted and the four inversions that the Mantis has are the

1. Loop at the bottom of the first hill

2. The diving loop following the first loop

3. The tilted loop

4. The corkscrew

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Cory Marshall

the "tilted loop" is the one in question

It's an inversion. Webster says an Inversion is a reversal of position, order or form. Your feet are higher than your head.

Your feet are *not* higher than your head. It's barely banked up in the turn.

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S2Kster said:
CPFan420, you've been around since July 21st. How would you know it's been talked about alot? I certainly don't remember talking about it since July 17 when I signed up...

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You don't have to register to read all the topics in CP Place.

Yes, this has been discussed several times here.

Michael, you're feet are indeed higher than your head at the apex of the inclined loop. If you imagine that a train in currently in the loop (in the middle of this picture), you could draw a line over from where your feet would be and where your head would be and it's evident that you are upside-down.

http://www.pointbuzz.com/gallery/564.jpg

As for CP's claim that MF's banked turns aren't upside down? They probably were just trying to figure out another way to get a world record, as well as ease the minds of people who wouldn't dream of going on a ride that has inversions, but no over the shoulder restraints.

I have been reading this for 2 years now

and mf's overbanks are turn arounds not just for fun

I'd consider The inclined loop in inverstion. I think you get more of an inversion than MF, and I think MF is the closest to inverted you can get without actually calling it an inversion.

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CP_bound said:
Yes, this has been discussed several times here.

Michael, you're feet are indeed higher than your head at the apex of the inclined loop....

http://www.pointbuzz.com/gallery/564.jpg...

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Apologies, I thought the "inclined loop" we were referring to was the turn over the station.