Magnum

I have rode Magnum several times and it is my knees that take the worst beating.

'Course I'm scooched as far forward when the belt goes on... ;)

Scott

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"If we go any faster, she'll blow apart for sure!"

I have to ride up front, otherwise my large gut (as pointed out by a fellow po!nter) gets a nasty feeling to it. I really feel the barage when I cross the bunny hills. Me in the ejector, with my tub experiencing air time, not good combination.
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Laugh ye not too hard at my piddly stats.
MF: 2
Magnum 4
Raptor: 2
I'm working on it, Jeeze!!

*** This post was edited by Wade on 10/17/2001. ***

I think the stapling thing at CP varies with operator to operator (or maybe crew to crew). In 7 trips to CP this summer I have never been stapled on Magnum. The operator always checked the bar by pulling up. But last Sunday, the operators where pushing the bars down, even though the bar was already touching my legs. I figured it was a reaction to the Perilous Plunge accident.
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Bob M.

*** This post was edited by RPMGuitar on 10/18/2001. ***

This thread reminds me of something that's kinda confused me for a while now - I apologize if it's a bit off-topic: We all know Magnum's restraints, and how safety-concious CP is, but there are other parks which seem as concientious and operate their coasters differently. The one that sticks out in my mind is the Phoenix at Knoebels - perhaps the most reknowned airtime coaster in the world, and it runs without seatbelts OR LAPBARS - all it has is a single-position bar that rests about a foot above your legs. Now, I've never felt unsafe on that ride, nor do I feel Knoebels is cavalier about the safety of their guests. Is it just particular to the coaster and its forces? A decision made at the corporate level, or based on ride mechanics? I guess I just wonder why two rides similar in the air they provide can have such different restraint systems. Any ideas?

For what it's worth, that *is* a lapbar.

RPMGuitar said:
I think the stapling thing at CP varies with operator to operator (or maybe crew to crew).

I think this sums it up at CP and just about every other park. Personally, if the bar is reasonably close to the legs, I see no need to push it down further. Just pull up to make sure it is locked - afterall, you are checking to make sure it is locked, so PULLING UP should be in order. I personally have a pet peeve for ops who push down, but don't pull up for this reason. Keep in mind that the crews on most of the rides right now are vastly different from the middle of the summer. I think Magnum has three or four of its main crew left at this point, so many people may be new to the ride or even new to working at the park (ride prides). As I said before, the people wh are going to get stapled by a good crew are the ones who are obvoisly trying to hold the bar up.

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-Matt
2001 Magnum Crew

*** This post was edited by MDOmnis on 10/18/2001. ***

I worked this past weekend at Magnum and I will tell you that I do not staple anyone unless they give me a hard time when i know they are trying to get too much airtime...You might have been stapled by a ride pride or someone on our crew that is not a regular to the crew who doesn't know how bad stapling can hurt someone.
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Gina
Magnum 2001

Bill - yes, it is a "lapbar" technically - I guess, for those who have not enjoyed the wonders of the single-position PTC bars, I thought calling it a lapbar may be misleading, as it comes nowhere near your lap. Although this may muddy the waters further ...
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Age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill.

With all that has happened we have to watch for people keeping thier bars up. Not saying they should staple you. I work at a ride with no restraints at all so I don't deal with it as much as other rides. I do work at Mine Ride on Friday nights and we are no longer allowed to push on the lap bars, If they can't pull it down themselves they can't ride.

Two things.....

1) Something that annoys me on Magnum/Gemini/Corkscrew/Millennium Force are those operators who push down on the lap bar, but DO NOT pull up on it. With Arrow's bars, pushing down accomplishes nothing but to staple people assuming the latches work; to insure that the bar is locked, the bar *must* be lifted up to the stop to insure that it is locked!
The PTC lap bars are a little different in that a *light* downward pressure should be applied to make sure the bar isn't unlocked.

2) You mean we have to pull back on the Mine Ride lap bars now?! Is there some kind of organized effort for that, "ONE TWO THREE PULL" or something like that? I normally have to *push* slightly on the Mine Ride lap bar as it is being lowered to keep it from coming down too suddenly.
Someone should do measurements on those trains and identify the looser seats......!

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Yeah, watch out for Mine Ride's ruthless ejector air! I give up, let the lawers win.

The day a 1969 Arrow mine train which has been operating trouble free for 32 years is associated with the death on a 2001 Intamin STC is the day when this must have been said.

There is nothing more uncommon than common sense- Frank Lloyd Wright

*** This post was edited by Joe E. on 10/21/2001. ***

Oh, to answer this question I rode Mine Ride tonight.(YAY!). I did not think much of it at first when the op told us to pull back on our own bars. What he did was pedal and push it down initially and instructed us to pull it down the rest of the way. I figured he was just being lazy! ;)

I can see were this started. Lady at Knotts fall out due to pulling of a seatbelt which caused the restraint system to be defective.. Therefore all extra pulling/pushing could cause this and is now a liability.

My Sony playstation broke. All Sony products will break.

Joe E. said:

My Sony playstation broke. All Sony products will break.

Ha, actually Sony is the best or one of the best home electronic companies out there. Take it from a service technician / sales rep who has seen all the manufacturers equipment. I wouldn't be selling Sony if I thought they were crap.... Now if you want me to name crap that would be....Raunchy Crap of America or RCA. Generic Equipment or GE. (RCA, GE, Proscan all the same company owned by Thomson Consumer Electronics). (Likewise Sanyo, Fisher same company) Zenith good God they suck, bankrupt twice last year. Philips, Magnavox...so so.

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This second hill is my favorite part of the ride. It is so Cool!
Gemini 100
Its Dan K's fault

Hehe, that is my point. Just because the original Sony Playstation has a bad read (from Christmas time that first year baby) dose that mean all Sony products are defective? Heck No! I have an original Sony Walkman and that large thing still works compared to 3 others I bought. That is precisely why I opted for a Sony CD player in my car.

Now just because there was a problem with one ride means there is a problem with every other single one, regardless of who made it? In this day and age I guess so. :(

And Go SONY! (although my 8-bit Nintendo still works ;) ). I Think I will get a ps2 and a gamecube. (x-box demo is WEAK!). And I wish Sony made coasters.
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*** This post was edited by Joe E. on 10/21/2001. ***

That's the kind of people we like :)
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This second hill is my favorite part of the ride. It is so Cool!
Gemini 100
Its Dan K's fault

Yes it is can you imagine how many people now get turned away from rides that they may have ridden 2 weeks ago before CP decided to do this. There have been lots and lot of complaints.

The original NES is a great system...for its time. It had the most games with the best game play. Mine is still in mint condition. Many of its games for NES became very popular, and became flagship games for all Nintendo systems. The Zelda series, Metroid, and the Mario series are some games always associated with Nintendo. Gauntlet was a great game, and I can't seem to find any copies around...I want to play that game bad. The graphics may not be so hot, but the game play is great.

So if I want to go see the Colts, I have to go to the Raunchy Crap of America Dome!? Why couldn't they just leave the Hoosier Dome alone? *sniff*

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MF count: 23

*** This post was edited by CP_bound on 10/21/2001. ***

Maybe since that train is missing a piece that the park is getting rid of the ride!! They should replace Magnum with a B&M hyper.

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Admission to Cedar Point - $39.00
Waiting in line for Millennium Force - One Hour & 30 Minutes
Getting a front seat ride on Millennium's yellow train at night for the last time - Priceless!

Hmmm...let's replace the first ever hyper coaster -- the coaster that started the whole coaster war -- the number 1 steel coaster (for 5+ years) and the current 3rd place steel coaster for a B&M that wouldn't be rated nearly as high...or NOT!

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MF count: 23

Well Magnum is not my favorite coaster, and is Magnum the number 1 coaster for everyone on the earth, no.

Magnum doesn't compare to a B&M hyper (Raging Bull), IMO.

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Admission to Cedar Point - $39.00
Waiting in line for Millennium Force - One Hour & 30 Minutes
Getting a front seat ride on Millennium's yellow train at night for the last time - Priceless!