Left Track Connceted To Tower

The Left side of the tower is now connected to the tower to flat track. Since we already decided that the right side was for the launch, this this confirms that it is gonna be a launch, something on the tower, and right into the breaks. : ( You can see it http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/inside_park/webcam/beach.cfm

*** This post was edited by Dragster2003 10/23/2002 3:53:15 PM ***

Just because there's brakes connected to the tower doesn't confirm that it's only L-TH-T-B. I still think that those brakes will be used to slow the ride down, then into another element.

Why would they want to slow it down, the flat track is way to long to be some kind of trim breaks, and it goes into the flat track fro the square.

Denial--or wishful thinking. Plain and simple. The writing is on the wall.

L-TH-B.

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Michael McCormack CP '02: 52
Magnum XL 200: 498 (623)
Millennium Force: 13
Wicked Twister: 33

While I agree that it will very likely be an L-Th-B layout, I do not believe that anything can be confirmed at this point. I don't know how much brake track is currently at the park, but I explain how straightaway trims would be possible/necessary here:

http://www.guidetothepoint.com/cpplace.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=9289 (I kind of ramble a bit. Sorry)

It would also make sense for a non-brakng straightaway to be flat track, as that sectoin isn't a high-stress area and would not require (presumably more expensive) box track.
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I too made a point about how this can't possibly be the actual brake run if its that long without a slant. Please, read here.

Please comment on my thoughts as I want to hear other people's opinions.

Why will it drop down this low instead of having a smaller down hill? Easy. Remember Superman: The Escape? Cedar Point wants to crush them and they will do this, so that's why there will be a what I call a "full hill", or you go up then you go down as far as you went up.

Wether or not there will be anymore elements, only 25 people know, and CP isn't saying anything.

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There are a massive amount of kicker wheels for the wide, so I'm sure that they will replace the need for a sloped brake.

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And the only reason Xcelerator has a sloped brake run is because of space constraints. Cedar Point hsa much more space, and therefore does not need to ulilize a sloped brake-run.

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Jes
Jes's Roller Coasters DJ Jes
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Cedar Point has more space than Knotts?
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almost as good as Millennium Force

I'm assuming your being sarcastic? If not, yes, Xcelerator was built on a realively small plot of land. The space cleared at Cedar Point now is probably close to twice the size of land Xcelerator was built on.

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Jes
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I was being sarcastic :)
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Superman: Ride Of Steel-
almost as good as Millennium Force

CoasterFreakMan, although the brake run supports do not have as steep a slope as the brakes in question on Xcelerator, there is a slight but noticeable slope in the supports from the tower towards the front of the park. You can notice this slope from the Corkscrew midway.

alright here's how it is...

click on this picture

http://www.virtualmidway.com/mystery/attraction423.jpg

see how on the right it goes from very small metal supports and then the big concrete blocks? and do you also notice how there are many other big concrete blocks in the same area in a somewhat grid-like pattern? so obviously this is where the station is going to be, why else would there be a big rectangular area that would require supports, there is no overbanked or turnaround of any kind that would require that large of a support area...there is just no way around it...as much as i don't want to admit it, this ride is going to be L-TH-B...
*** This post was edited by the guy 10/23/2002 7:27:43 PM ***

I think youre looking at the pic backwards....

the far side is where the brake run is, and there are only metal supports (left side). The concrete blocks into the supports (right side) is where the launch is ;)

Wishful thinking, here I come. I would love to see it be more than L-TH-B although it's looking less and less like it. But just to throw another wrench in this discussion, let's examine that fake drawing again

http://images.mp3.com/mp3s/109/resources/119/836/files/11983695.gif

There is a straight piece of track on that drawing right after the top hat. Maybe the drawing isn't totally fake. Perhaps they are only going to slow the train down.

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Kyle (Kile de Chile)
Raptor Crew '00-'01

I still dont know if we should believe that pic. If you notice it has the launch track above the first level of the tower, it isnt being built that way....minor flaw in the drawing or proof that i is a complete fake.

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Do it fast biotch...
*** This post was edited by Dragster2003 10/23/2002 10:28:08 PM ***

I'm sorry, but any roller coaster firm that adds brakes to slow down the train in order to safely traverse the next element is lame. Slapping trim brakes on a ride after it is built is another thing.

Besides, space is not an issue here. I'm sure if Cedar Point wanted 13 and 1/2 overbanked turns after the top-hat, they would have been built here. The only reasonable explanation I can come up with that this ride is so short legenth wise, is cost. I've heard some rough estimate thrown around that it costs 1 million dollars for every 20 feet vertical construction over 300 feet (Once again, it was very vague). Reaching for the stars can be expensive, not only in creating a structure, built renting the proper construction equipment. These cranes are not cheap.
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Jes
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just a logical comment. Lets put this scenario into play. Its, say, November 10th, and cedar point makes an official announcement that its going to be this fast and this high and breaks this many world records. We all go to download a picture of the layout, or snip it out of a newspaper. As we all look in amazement, possibly disappointment, we notice that the layout of the track looks eerily familiar to the pic that, that person drew. The people who firmly said that this picture is definitely not possible, not happening, etc might feel like morons. No offense of course. But still. The announcement may very well be tomorrow, or a week before opening day. it is the possibility. so instead of totally demeaning ones ideas. look at it with the possibility in mind. also, who cares if jeff knows? maybe hes playing with us. if i knew id play with people by telling them itd be this and that when in fact it could be the opposite. this concludes our therepy session for today.

also Dragster2003 ur quote is funny as hell

I have no problem saying that drawing is fake. None what so ever. It's not possible. I will stake my fledgling reputation on it.

There is a difference between "possibilities" and "wishes." Don't get the two confused.

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