incredible head chopper on down spiral

Take a close look at the new large closeup image on virtualmidway. Look at the downward spiral, it goes thru a triangle of supports while spiraling. that looks to be a massive headchopper. Sure hope they got the clearance calculations correct!

here is the link ( 1.3meg file beware) http://www.virtualmidway.com/mystery/attraction517_big.jpg

Actually when you get to the first thing sticking out you will be facing the support structure, not MF. You might wana follow the track again, it still might cause i good headchopper though.

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When they test it, they will probably do a clearance chech like they did on MF during it's pullthrough.
http://www.guidetothepoint.com/gallery/img.asp?img=h-mfconst310.jpg
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Check It said:
Actually when you get to the first thing sticking out you will be facing the support structure, not MF. You might wana follow the track again, it still might cause i good headchopper though.
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actually I never said which way you would be facing. I followed the track and It looks like you would be facing north towards the rear triangle support. I mentioned the clearance because i remember xcelerator had a few mods made because of the clearance issues. I really like the clearance device used on MF. Very high tech.

What clearance device was used on MF?

SteelMonsters said:
When they test it, they will probably do a clearance chech like they did on MF during it's pullthrough.
http://www.guidetothepoint.com/gallery/img.asp?img=h-mfconst310.jpg
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I doubt these clearance tests are all that necessary, as every aspect of this ride has probably been perfectly designed on Intamin's nice computers.

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better safe than sorry
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Perfectly designed? Not quite...they did have to cut all the supports on the brake run down to size from their original height.

Yes, CP uses the "better safe than sorry" motta to death. While the board isn't need, they do the pull-through to try to foresee any possible problems. Safety is no accident when it comes to CP.

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...Denial is an ugly thing.
*** This post was edited by CP_bound 12/22/2002 1:55:24 PM ***

CP bound, you think maybe it's about time you changed your sig? If they're any denial now, it's obvious that it's pretty ugly.

Not really--there is still plenty of denial and yes, it is ugly. Look for the closed threads with titles in all caps. Better yet, don't look for 'em.

Back on topic, tho: I love that twist already. I have to admit that 300-foot MF drop really doesn't terrify me--it's too smooth and too long if you ask me. The twist gives me something to do on the way down. The twist towards the support structure is nothing short of genius.

-'Playa

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*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya 12/22/2002 3:58:24 PM ***

Agreed, CoastaPlaya. Me and heights still have this whole disagreement thing going on, and even though Millennium Force has been my #1 ride since it opened, this should be something to write home about.

I've always wanted to see a coaster with a 'kamikaze dive' such as this... I never imagined it would take shape in a 400+ foot 100+ mph monster such as this, however.

I'm beyond excited. ;)

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*** This post was edited by Gravity 12/22/2002 6:56:54 PM ***

How fast do you think it will be going right before you hit the brakes? I'm sure it will lose some speed from its initial launch speed. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

As long as there are still people that are hanging on to some kind of false hope that the ride will be more, the sig will stay. It will only be a few weeks more, don't worry.

Then the boards will no longer be flooded with threads of "It's not 400 feet!" or "The Photo's are fake!" Instead the threads like, "Who all is disappointed!?", "Did you guys here about the new ride @ CP!?!?!?!?!" and "This ride is too dangerous for the public to ride!!!!"

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...Denial is an ugly thing.

I can't wait for round two of the "disappointment" threads to start.

Honestly, how anyone can be disappointed with this thing is beyond me. It's all about varied experiences. There's a little touch of something different on each ride on that peninsula. If we had 16 rollercoasters that were all full of overbanked turns and bunny hops, I'd vacation elsewhere.

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A pull-through test isn't necessary? I argue that it is not enough. It took an entire season for the support in the first overbank on MF to be cut out a bit so that people who reached a little too far would stop hitting their hands.

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what part on Mf needs clearence? there arent any head choppers and stuff like that!

The last arm support of the first overbanked turn can/could be hit by people with their hands up. Also, there is a nice head chopper on the island where the track goes under itself to the overbank before the return hill. This one has enough clearance, though.

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Gravity said:

Honestly, how anyone can be disappointed with this thing is beyond me

I agree completely. There will be someone, somewhere who will be disappointed no matter what you build. And the part that makes me "wonder" the most is how people could be convinced that it's disappointing before they ever ride it!

A good example: I'm one of the lucky few (lucky to still be alive) that got to ride CP's veritgo. I rode it 4 times while it was open. Each ride only lasted for about 30 seconds, but those four rides were the scariest 2 minutes of my life. I'll admit, before I rode, I thought, "It seems like an awfully short ride."

I'll never prejudge a ride by its duration again!

Well Fat Chris, I think it's pretty safe to say that we're not going to be going over the tophat at 110 mph...We're obviously going to lose speed going up the launch hill due to friction and the fact that gravity is having an effect on us as well...Determining how fast we are going to go on the descent hill will require us to know how fast we're going to launch and exactly how high the top hat is...Then the angle of descent is important and all those physics factors play in...Since I'm not good at most of that stuff, I have seen many people on these boards in the past year do many physics problems concerning rides...I'll leave this one to you guys...Let's say it's 400 ft tall and we launch at 110 mph...You can use any angle of ascent or descent you like if that really matters to the problem...So the question is, exactly how fast will we be going back down the hill? I understand if no one wants to answer this problem if they don't find it relevant, but I just thought it would be interesting to see it done and sorry if this has already been answered...Thanks

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