I found the best invention EVER at the park.

BEHOLD! The broken office chair/mopbucket rolling seat under the train. It's beautiful!

You know, just because the yellow train was gone for a while, you don't have the right to call it names. :)

Saw it sitting there on Tuesday and Wednesday. What's the hold up? Does it have to be inspected?

The ride may have to be recertified for three train operation. That was an issue the year it opened. I don't remember why exactly, but I seem to remember there being some issue with the way the blocking worked.

Actually it's being boarded; this is simply part of the new IROC procedures. Customers won't notice, though. Safety first!

Lol, when I saw the yellow train sitting there last weekend I said "Look who decided to join the party" lol! I'm glad it's back in action.

Kevinj said:

Actually it's being boarded; this is simply part of the new IROC procedures. Customers won't notice, though. Safety first!

What does IROC stand for?

Lash said:

IROC = Irregular Ride Operations Course

Pete said:

Or, how about,

IROC = Idiots Ruining Our Coaster.

Alex, while I like the above answers the real answer to your question is: International Ride Operators Certification Course. Cedar Point had better safety procedures before this joke ((IROC) came along.

Which is interesting because I had never heard of IROC until the In The Loop thread.

On the other hand, AIMS (Amusement Industry Manufacturers and Suppliers) DOES offer a ride operator certification program. If the objective is to have an accredited operator training program, why not use AIMS?

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

According the iROC website they list AIMS INTL as one of their industry memberships.

When Pigs Fly

Their name sounds like a barbeque joint.

Part of the IROC procedures is to cycle the train empty before being able run with riders. So yesterday Yellow train was cycling empty while Red and Blue trains were being boarded. This meant Red train was almost coming to a stop every time on the top of the lift, my guess is the empty Yellow train was taking its sweet time rolling into unload. Anyways by around 8:30 last night they were finally boarding the Yellow train.

So you can all calm the $%^& down now, MF is running three trains.

~Rob

Rob, gotta take issue with you.

If MF has a 1 hour wait running 3 trains, it's a 1 hour and 20 minute wait running 2. People have a right to prefer the shortest possible wait. CP has financial reasons to prefer the shortest possible wait--people waiting in line aren't spending $$$.

So, no, I don't consider people (or CP itself) complaining about a 33% increase in wait times to be unreasonable.

Here we go again with the numbers and equations...

Here we go again thinking that amusement park visitors have rights.

Let's be sure to place credit or blame where it is due.

Cedar Point has always required a ride unit to operate for some number of cycles before carrying riders. Normally this is carried out in the preseason, but obviously the yellow train didn't have much preseason activity this year.

The Millennium Force rains are notoriously finicky, and need to be fully warmed up with a specifically distributed load before they can be relied upon to complete the course. Rob observed that the yellow rain was running slow, and I'm guessing you could probably see it getting noticeably faster with each run. Once the train is completing the circuit fast enough, then they start loading it.

Besides, would you really want to ride on a slow train, particularly if the other two are running at full speed? Do you think anybody else would want to?

Oh, and for the record, ASTM F770-14:4.1.4.4 only requires that the ride be operated through one complete cycle without paying customers.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

As far as the IROC stuff goes, I am more alarmed at the stupid procedures they seem to be implementing at the loading platform like no meeting in the middle, no skipping a slow guest and coming back, no checking your seat until everyone is seated (is that everyone in your section or everyone in the whole train? hopefully the former), no checking seats until everyone from the previous train has exited, standing on red dots and not properly pairing riders up, etc. These are changes that defy common sense and seek to fix a problem that didn't exist.

CP has always put a lot of cycles on ride units before making them available so we can't blame IROC for that. That they had to runt he yellow train for a day or two empty before they let people on it is not a surprise to me.

Hey guys, my name is Jordan and I'm new to Pointbuzz. I've been following it around for some time now. I know what iROC is there a way I can find their procedures online? Or are you guys listing the new procedures you've seen while at the park? I'm sort of confused...

I know first hand what the procedures are, and everything that has been said is exactly it. What a waste of time that program is.