What if Millennium Force REALLY is taller than 310 ft? Ok, I know this has been discussed before, and was pretty much shot down by everyone, but recently Cedar Point did something that kind of intrigued me. They said they were going to hire an outside firm to come in a "officially" measure it.
Now think for a second, why would Cedar Point hire an outside firm (pay for the measuring) if they knew they'd been beaten. Cedar Point said somewhere, "we will still claim the tallest and fastest record unless an outside firm comes in and proves Millennium Force shorter".
Sorry that's not an exact quote, I forget where it is, but I think it's the Sandusky Register.
Wouldn't hiring the outside firm be digging their own grave then? If they knew that the coaster was 310 ft, why hire the firm to measure it, and then not be able to claim the records?
Go ahead an bash up my post to death now, just something that struck me as a little odd.
ok, here's the exact quote, I found it, it is from the Sandusky Register:
"Until both the Millennium Force and the new roller coaster in Japan are officially measured, I would expect that we wouldn't change our advertising," she said. "When that is done, if it turns out that the one in Japan actually is taller, we'll probably advertise it as the tallest in North America or something like that. We do want to be accurate, and we do want to be credible."
They do want to be accurate, and they do want to be credible, so they are going to keep pushing MF as the tallest fastest, etc...
Hmmmm, maybe they know something? I don't know,
Ok, bash away, for real now.
*** This post was edited by Clarkbar on 8/8/2000. ***
I don't think they are going to hire someone, I think they are going to wait for Guinness, which I believe do it for free.
Ok , so maybe they wouldn't hire the firm, still, why do it if you know you'd been had is my point.
Maybe they just don't want to be sued.... Until someone proves them wrong, they want to have all of the advertising they can. I still doubt the height will be any taller, these things are finalized long before measuring....
In reality, it goes back to the quote. They want to be reliable. If they hire an outside firm, then nobody can claim that it's not actually 310 ft. tall. Kind of like back when I played high school basketball. Before the season started, the coach asked us how tall we were. When I said 5'6", he proceded to write 5'9". This was what went into the game programs. I don't know what it accomplished, if anything, but they did it.
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UCSigep
Rides to the top of the World: 8
MAYBE this is just one big play or performance if you will for CP to accurately measure it. They might have had this planned out so that it looks like they're playing dumb and they can still claim tallest. But behind this "coincidence" this is just one big plan to keep MF tallest.
Just my off the wall optomistic thought....
Why would anyone sue anyone over something like this? Do they like the sound of judges laughing in their face?
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Jeff
Webmaster/Guide to The Point
Millennium Force laps: 35
I'd love to see a judge laughing at someone over a frivolous lawsuit like roller coaster height.
:)
Hm, I dunno, the world is getting pretty strange. But, ya, now that I think of it again, that was a really stupid thing to say. How many retarted posts am I up to? :(
Jeff and Nut...
Are you forgetting that there *was* a court battle over who had the tallest wooden roller coaster, fought between Dorney Park (Hercules) and Six Flags over Texas (Texas Giant)? Never mind that even as the battle was going on, Mean Streak had already been announced.
The strangest part of it all? All three coasters were designed and built by Curt Summers and Charles Dinn.
(This was before Cedar Fair bought Dorney Park)
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Here's another thing I just thought of that seemed a little odd that I forgot to put in my original post:
Why hasn't there been any word on an official clocking of speed? I've heard rumors about official "clocking" of speed, but there hasn't been a word from someone of importance.
What if they're not going to, because they would find that it was clocked at a speed faster than what 310 ft. would allow?
Maybe I'm getting my hopes up too much, and there's really no reason for it....
but maybe not......
*** This post was edited by Clarkbar on 8/8/2000. ***
*** This post was edited by Clarkbar on 8/8/2000. ***
Wasn't there a controversy when Blackpool Pleasure Beach over in England built the Pepsi Max Big One concerning actual height? Blackpool claimed a height of 235 feet, when the actual height turned out to be 214 feet. Blackpool was claiming a height as it relates to sea level- 235 feet above sea level. Even though the lift hill was only 214 feet from the ground to the top of the lift.
tallest or not, i still think mf has the record for " oh s*** " being screamed on the drop, i tried to refrain my first few times,but somehow i still yelled it.
Yeah, especially when Japanese people don't speak english.
hee hee, I agree, you do hear the most, "oh s***'s" at the top of the hill.
this probably wont happen, but what if another place measured and it came up actually under..like 309, 308, 307, etc., etc. cedar point would look pretty dumb. on my first force ride, almost the whole train was chanting throughout the ride, "HOLY S**T, HOLY S**T!"
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3 Force rides:
3-2, 5-1, 9-2
on MY first ride, some guys behind us chanted "Holy F'ing S***!!" the whole ride!! and as far as the Pepsi Max Big One goes, just because the lift is a certain height does not mean the drop is not bigger than the lift would supposedly allow. the American Eagle at SFGAm only has a lift of about 126, but the drop is really 140. they dug out a trench into the ground to make the drop longer, because the village of Gurnee wouldn't let them build anything higher than 125 at he time..still won't without a special permit...
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ride early, ride often!!!
I decided I was going to yell that even before I rode it.:)