Heartline roll, more detail

This would be a heartline roll.

http://rcdb.com/ig1412.htm?picture=19

Only difference is that Colussus takes those at a rather slow rate when Maverick took its at 50+ mph.

When the ride was testing with its heartline roll, the trains flew through it and there were no riders. The speed difference from loaded to empty trains is big, just imagine how fast the trains would have gone through the inversion with riders.

EDIT: Here's a video from May 14, 2007.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW2AFdhsxOA

*** Edited 11/26/2007 3:39:32 PM UTC by Gomez***

millenniumforce_x3 said:
Does any coaster have a heartline roll?

At Cedar Point, no. But, there are many coasters that have a heartline roll as one (or more) of their elements.

^^ Wow, that video looks so slow in comparison to Maverick's real performance.

I remember watching that, and seeing the ride testing in person, and thinking how fast it was, but it definitely looks slow in that video now.

That's how the ride runs when it is empty. It usually goes very slow through the second corkscrew and the last dive turn.

That would have been bad ass still to go through that roll with your head 5 foot above the ground! Oh well we'll never know now.Damn it!!!

I've posted a diagram showing the rotation of a heartline roll over at Pointolia.

http://www.pointolia.com/blog/index.php?/archives/9-The-Heartline-Concept.html

Damn i wish i would have gotten a ride with that roll on it.

I'm curious though by what standard is every 5 years too much?

Cedar Point tears down all their trains and replaces any worn parts, at some point the train is "replaced" without having to buy whole trains. What is the normal timeline for this "replacement" to occur.

Tim - I believe (and I may be wrong) that zero-g and heartline rolls are the same element. If so, then CP has one on Raptor.

I belive that the only thing diffrent between a hartline roll and a zero - g roll is that a zero -g roll is placed at the top of a camleback hill, while a hartline roll does not, correct me if im wrong

*** Edited 12/1/2007 2:30:36 AM UTC by Raptor Fan***

^Yes I think your right.

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JuggaLotus said:
Cedar Point tears down all their trains and replaces any worn parts, at some point the train is "replaced" without having to buy whole trains. What is the normal timeline for this "replacement" to occur.

I'm not sure, but judging by the entry T&T made over a year ago about MF's train rehab, most of the parts seem like they would be replaced, but judging by the pictures, I highly doubt the actual frame of the cars are taken apart (third picture).

http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/fun/blog/index.cfm?entry=c6450081-9960-408b-8f18-0b8729df986c

Ummm...Craig, that car was down to the bare bones, and there was another behind it. I'm curious as to what parts would have been under the most stress, and if the main chassis would have undergone any kind of bending/warping from the stress.

^Sorry, wrong choice of words. I meant to say is, I doubt the main frame of the cars are ever replaced unless there's cracking or something catastrophic like that.

^ Well if that were the case, they'd be buying completely new trains every single season. There's only a need to replace wearable items, not frames. That would be like replacing the entire braking system in your car when only the pads need replaced.