They could move this all onto the mainland, and then provide a ferry or some trolley or something to get to the park. I know that this is very Disney-ish but I think it would be almost mandatory for the Point to expand completely. I also know some of the charm of the penisula is that everything is just right there. Anybody care to speculate?
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LeWiS
-Jeremy
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Born To Ride The Rollercoaster
Cedar Point Does Not Have A Space Problem™
Cedar Point Will Not Have A Space Problem in 2013™
10 years ago, everyone thought the park was running out of room. I remember the off-site parking and monorail threads in rec.roller-coaster from the early 90's.
Take a look through recent and not so recent history. It's not like Cedar Point is afraid to remove old attractions to make room for new ones.
Besides, who says the park has to forever grow in land mass to be successful?
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Walt Schmidt
Virtual Midway
*** This post was edited by Gemini 7/21/2003 4:27:56 PM ***
What you have to do is consider the place as a resort, not just an amusement park. Yes, you could expand the park at the expense of the resort but would that be a wise move? Likely not. Cedar Point hasn't invested all of the money into Breakers and Lighthouse Point on a whim. Those expansions have meant more to the bottom line of the company than has many of the recent ride additions.
As I have said more times than I care to admit, you need only look at Blackpool Pleasure Beach in England to see that there is a lot of creative ways Cedar Point can grow the amusement park that would not require going beyond the current boundary.
I suspect you would never have believed the park would be able to build a 420 foot full circuit rollercoaster prior to Dragster being announced.
One word: DESTINATON.
MrScott
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"If we go any faster, she'll blow apart for sure!"
When you spend a lot of money on a ride, you’ll want to get many years of service. When it is a record breaker, there will be pressure to keep it for historic purposes.
The comments you made (sarcasm noted :-) about Cedar Point’s previous ability to remove rides is valid. The thought that they'll be able to continue doing that in the future is a bit less convincing (to me, anyway). The new rides get bigger and DO require more space (I think land mass will become more of an issue as rides continue to get taller and faster. Not all will have the compact footprint of Dragster.)
The best thing we can hope for is that they avoid the problem by building new rides ABOVE existing rides! (Now THERE’S a thought… how about a 500 ft loop over Millennium Force coming off the 800ft lift hill over Dragster?!?)
Anyway, don't misunderstand my point... I (generally) agree that the problem is not as big, nor as immediate as many others think. I just see a "much more difficult" time in removing some of the old record breakers compared to Mill Race down the road…
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Hey, I heard a rumor that Millennium Force is sinking...
There is MUCH more room in the park for future growth than you can ever imagine.
Just sit back relax enjoy the ride and leave the design of the park to the experts. This isn't RCT2.
Gemini said:
10 years ago, everyone thought the park was running out of room. I remember the off-site parking and monorail threads in rec.roller-coaster from the early 90's.
As hard as this may be to believe now, I heard this story as far back as the early 70's! Way before the internet and rec.roller-coaster. My dad, and a group of other drunk boaters, were sitting around the marina, within earshot of me, who was playing Strata-Matic Baseball. One of them claimed he heard that from George Roose himself! Not only that, but he claimed that the monorail would go to Johnson's Island, which would become part of the park! Internet rumors have nothing over a bunch of drunk boaters as far as wild tails go!
As far as the future growth of Cedar Point is concerned, they are just about at the point where they need to make the jump to a national destination resort, while, of course, still keeping the locals happy with cheap season passes.
What Cedar Point has to offer is certainly world class, it's time to market to a national audience. There are only so many people to draw from in the present market area. I can see the indoor water park resort, the further development of Lighthouse Point, another tower at Breakers replacing the Bon Air wing, another hotel next to Breakers Express.
Bump up the hotel rooms some more and market nationally. Perhaps even tie into an entire package with island trips to Put-In-Bay, winery tours and Cleveland. Cedar Point and the Sandusky area has great potential to become the Orlando of the Great Lakes. Oh, and before I forget - BUILD THE NIGHTCLUB! :)
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I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks,
than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.
I imagine the water park won't leave the Hotel area for reasons of convenience.
Lighthouse point seems very moveable, as the cabins seem to be some sort of crate/trailer design. I wouldn't want to see them moved as the location is perfect.
Is there not a point where CP can have too many rides in the future? We say CP can never have too much, but realistically, there has to be a point where too much is too much.
Disney seems to favor the tear down old attractions for new attractions in their parks. Instead of using their seemingly endless supply of room, they just reinvent the area.
I like the Point the way it is. A parking garage would be very unattractive.
Just my two cents.
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Go Full Force. :::::::::::::90
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