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Someone in another thread mentioned moving the parking areas to the mainland to create more space. Once again, before some jackass tells me CP is not out of land, they will be within the next 10 years, unless they don't want to keep expanding. I was thinking, why not move the parking areas, Soak City, and maybe the Challange Park onto the mainland. It would be a whole lot of work, but if you have a map handy, look how much room that would free up. They might even want to remove some of the hotels in the back of peninsula(not now, because I know lighthouse point is being expanded).

They could move this all onto the mainland, and then provide a ferry or some trolley or something to get to the park. I know that this is very Disney-ish but I think it would be almost mandatory for the Point to expand completely. I also know some of the charm of the penisula is that everything is just right there. Anybody care to speculate?

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LeWiS

That sounds like it would be a good idea, but i wouldnt remove breakers, or anything like that. But where the parking lots are there is SO MUCH ROOM, i mean you could put a few coasters where the parking lots are! so partially i think they should move the parkinglots, but some of the hotels could stay!

-Jeremy

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Born To Ride The Rollercoaster

liebevision's avatar

I also agree on moving the parking lots, or at least making a parking garage instead of the back lots. that would keep it right there on point but it would take up less room, and you could use the remaining lot space for rides and attractions
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Cedar Point will be out of land in 10 years? Let the countdown begin!

Cedar Point Does Not Have A Space Problem™

Cedar Point Will Not Have A Space Problem in 2013™

10 years ago, everyone thought the park was running out of room. I remember the off-site parking and monorail threads in rec.roller-coaster from the early 90's.

Take a look through recent and not so recent history. It's not like Cedar Point is afraid to remove old attractions to make room for new ones.

Besides, who says the park has to forever grow in land mass to be successful?

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Walt Schmidt
Virtual Midway
*** This post was edited by Gemini 7/21/2003 4:27:56 PM ***

The only reason the resorts get what they charge is because of the fact that you can almost roll out of bed and be at the gate. There was another thread where someone suggested moving Soak City to the mainland. Again, this goes against the whole resort philosophy.

What you have to do is consider the place as a resort, not just an amusement park. Yes, you could expand the park at the expense of the resort but would that be a wise move? Likely not. Cedar Point hasn't invested all of the money into Breakers and Lighthouse Point on a whim. Those expansions have meant more to the bottom line of the company than has many of the recent ride additions.

As I have said more times than I care to admit, you need only look at Blackpool Pleasure Beach in England to see that there is a lot of creative ways Cedar Point can grow the amusement park that would not require going beyond the current boundary.

I suspect you would never have believed the park would be able to build a 420 foot full circuit rollercoaster prior to Dragster being announced.

This reminds me of that grasshopper and the ant story. They people saying Cedar Point doesnt not have a space problem being the grasshopper and the ones thinking CP is tarting to run out of room and needs to be lookin toward the future. Sure right now CP does not have a space problem but some where in the near future they will. hopefully CP has some people working on the future space problem, id hate to the grasshoppers running Cedar point.
Amen. If anything, the Lighthouse Point expantion project is conservative. CP has a hold of the tail and has to figure out how to hold on.

One word: DESTINATON.

MrScott

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"If we go any faster, she'll blow apart for sure!"

Walt, if you think about the rides removed so far, how many of those were "mega-buck" rides to begin with? How many were "record-breakers"? I think there WILL be a reluctance to remove rides of that nature, and Cedar Point is quickly developing a park full of them.

When you spend a lot of money on a ride, you’ll want to get many years of service. When it is a record breaker, there will be pressure to keep it for historic purposes.

The comments you made (sarcasm noted :-) about Cedar Point’s previous ability to remove rides is valid. The thought that they'll be able to continue doing that in the future is a bit less convincing (to me, anyway). The new rides get bigger and DO require more space (I think land mass will become more of an issue as rides continue to get taller and faster. Not all will have the compact footprint of Dragster.)

The best thing we can hope for is that they avoid the problem by building new rides ABOVE existing rides! (Now THERE’S a thought… how about a 500 ft loop over Millennium Force coming off the 800ft lift hill over Dragster?!?)

Anyway, don't misunderstand my point... I (generally) agree that the problem is not as big, nor as immediate as many others think. I just see a "much more difficult" time in removing some of the old record breakers compared to Mill Race down the road…

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Hey, I heard a rumor that Millennium Force is sinking...

No. young grasshopper, CP IS NOT RUNNING OUT OF SPACE. I don't care if you feel the rides "removed" were not "recordbreakers". This is a "debate" that has been discussed LONG and hard for MANY YEARS. Hell, even longer than alot of members of this site.

There is MUCH more room in the park for future growth than you can ever imagine.

Just sit back relax enjoy the ride and leave the design of the park to the experts. This isn't RCT2.

Well you think what you want and i will think that CEDAR POINT DOES HAVE A SPACE PROBLEM ok? i do agree however thats its not a threat for the next 5 years, but as we get towards 10 i think they will have to be very creative with their rides.
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Gemini said:


10 years ago, everyone thought the park was running out of room. I remember the off-site parking and monorail threads in rec.roller-coaster from the early 90's.


As hard as this may be to believe now, I heard this story as far back as the early 70's! Way before the internet and rec.roller-coaster. My dad, and a group of other drunk boaters, were sitting around the marina, within earshot of me, who was playing Strata-Matic Baseball. One of them claimed he heard that from George Roose himself! Not only that, but he claimed that the monorail would go to Johnson's Island, which would become part of the park! Internet rumors have nothing over a bunch of drunk boaters as far as wild tails go!

As far as the future growth of Cedar Point is concerned, they are just about at the point where they need to make the jump to a national destination resort, while, of course, still keeping the locals happy with cheap season passes.

What Cedar Point has to offer is certainly world class, it's time to market to a national audience. There are only so many people to draw from in the present market area. I can see the indoor water park resort, the further development of Lighthouse Point, another tower at Breakers replacing the Bon Air wing, another hotel next to Breakers Express.

Bump up the hotel rooms some more and market nationally. Perhaps even tie into an entire package with island trips to Put-In-Bay, winery tours and Cleveland. Cedar Point and the Sandusky area has great potential to become the Orlando of the Great Lakes. Oh, and before I forget - BUILD THE NIGHTCLUB! :)

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I'd rather be in my boat with a drink on the rocks,
than in the drink with a boat on the rocks.

Cp does not have infinite space, but they do have enough to be creative with.

I imagine the water park won't leave the Hotel area for reasons of convenience.

Lighthouse point seems very moveable, as the cabins seem to be some sort of crate/trailer design. I wouldn't want to see them moved as the location is perfect.

Is there not a point where CP can have too many rides in the future? We say CP can never have too much, but realistically, there has to be a point where too much is too much.

Disney seems to favor the tear down old attractions for new attractions in their parks. Instead of using their seemingly endless supply of room, they just reinvent the area.

I like the Point the way it is. A parking garage would be very unattractive.

Just my two cents.

I have noticed that in recent years, Cedar Point has been very conservative with their rides, instead of just demolishing the old ones, they relocate them to another area, one that might be in need of a few rides. I believe the park wants to try very hard not to make any drastic changes to the park, and still maintain what is, after all, the number one amusement park.

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