Farewell, Wildcat.
^Not necessarily. I won't be talking about it much anymore but just because it passed inspection and had its "permit" doesn't mean that something didn't happen after inspection and before the decision was made. We'll never know if anything happened or not really.
The ride was probably going to head out soon as stated, it was expensive and all that jazz. I'll miss it yes, but there really isn't anything that can be done. Onwards with 2012...it'll be a great season.
Nothing said anywere on this thread is evidence its all hearsay. Even the "quote" form the Department of Agriculture isnt evidence. It suggests something. but dosent mean something could have happend after the inspection.
If you want facts here they are. Wildcat was one of the oldest rides in the park. It had accidents in the past and im sure high maitnance costs. Cedar point is spending $6 million on a new show, This show is expecting large crowds.
We all know Kinzel didn't want to remove any ride, expectly a coaster. Ouimet probally wanted wildcat removed quickly, but didn't want to do it his first year. That said after seeing the space for himself and knowing the libialty issues with Wildcat he decided to get rid of it.
Wildcat was a fun little ride and im sad to see it go, but I cant understand the arugeing about it that has been going on. Who cares exatly why is was removed! everyone here pretty much seems to agree it was time. At the end of the day im sure it wasnt "this or that" that caused Wildcats removel but "this AND that"
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Glenn Kidd said:
Does anyone remember when Cedar Point's other Wildcat left Cedar Point?
I don't know that anybody really remembers it; the only reason I know about it is that it was mentioned in the '79 Annual Report, which I read while doing some research...
The old Wildcat was located right about where the Oceana stadium (All Wheels Extreme show) is now. When the Jumbo Jet went away, the Wildcat was moved to Valleyfair!, and the new Wildcat (the one being removed now) was placed at the other end of what would soon (1980) become the Oceana midway. So the park has not ever been without a Wildcat since 1970; the transition between the old one and the new one was mistaken by most casual observers for a simple relocation.
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Looking at this picture from Tuesday last week, and this one from today, looks like 90% is gone at this point.
Or this picture.
Tilt-a-Whirl said:
Wildcat was to open with the park as planned, Matt wanted Celebration Plaza expanded (just like the press release said), the ride was removed (in good working order, inspections passed, etc. etc.) to make such expansion happen.
I don't know if I would say "good working order" especially since the park has already stated that its continued mechanical problems helped in the decision to remove it.
^^I didn't even realize you could see it that well from the TTD cam...I guess I don't pay attention.
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99er said:
I don't know if I would say "good working order" especially since the park has already stated that its continued mechanical problems helped in the decision to remove it.
No no no.
There are two, and only two, possibilities - either the ride collapsed spontaneously and spectacularly, or Matt has an insurmountable midway-as-a-concert-venue fetish that can only be satiated by removing rides and killing dreams (and probably kittens).
There's no possibility that this was a decision with multiple angles.
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Brandon
Silly me thinking that the people who know what they are doing MIGHT actually know what they are doing. I went against the normal working order of Pointbuzz and actually used some logical sense. Thank you for correcting me, it won't happen again.
Also, love how you included the winkie, just in case. :)
djDaemon said:
and killing dreams (and probably kittens).
They didn't kill a kitten; it was a Wildcat! ;)
I think its fair to question management's decisions regarding the new show. Is it worth rushing the show so that its ready for this year? Would not having the show negatively effect attendance for this year? I don't think so.
I think the greater risk is that the show is rushed, rash decisions are made and the final product is not well received by the guests. Its hard to overcome a bad first impression or put back a ride you hacked apart.
The park is putting up coin for infrastructure, but the show itself is produced by a third party. I'm not particularly worried about it.
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djDaemon said:
No no no.There are two, and only two, possibilities - either the ride collapsed spontaneously and spectacularly, or Matt has an insurmountable midway-as-a-concert-venue fetish that can only be satiated by removing rides and killing dreams (and probably kittens).
You guys are all wrong! This is nothing more than a ploy for Magic Mountain to get the coaster crown. Matt is friends with Magic Mountain on Facebook, see for yourselves!
Since Matt came from Disneyland and Californians have a lot of disdain for Ohioans, this was his chance to help out Magic Mountain become the coast with the most. I can't believe those who have their head stuck in the sand. I was told this by a guy that drives a truck that delivers spare parts to Cedar Point, so I know what I'm talking about.
Either way, I'm mad and won't be going to the park anymore.
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RPM said:
I think its fair to question management's decisions...Is it worth rushing the show...
...the show is rushed
...the final product is not well received by the guests.
Who said they're rushing the show? They're trying to get construction work completed for opening day, but there's no indication the show itself will be rushed.
Remember - Luminosity doesn't officially open until June 8th.
Brandon
99er said:
^Even their system is flawed because they too have had to redesign or remove after something has been built.
???? I'm pretty sure their program accounts for everything. The Fanatsyland revamp is the first project to use it and I haven't heard of any problems. Has there been an incident?
Because we can totally say with certainty when the show doesn't even open for another month that Luminosity will not be well-received by guests, certainly not in comparison to the critical darling of a show it's replacing.
Skippy said:
???? I'm pretty sure their program accounts for everything. The Fanatsyland revamp is the first project to use it and I haven't heard of any problems. Has there been an incident?
99er has more first hand experience with the mouse than me, but I don't care how advanced a system is, there's no way to truly know how something will feel until you're standing right there looking at the construction. It might tell you all the exact facts you need, but there's something that can never come across digitally that compares to stepping back, looking at it and feeling the scale of something. Time and time again something looks great on paper and it's not until you see something next to another thing that you realize it doesn't feel or look right.
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Exactly. My family owns a construction company and have a program that can show you a life like view of what the houses and building will look like completed, including furnishings. Even with that once it's built the view is entirely different and a lot of the times the computer renderings don't do the final product justice.
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Zeek said:
Wildcat anyone?
I saw trucks with Wildcat pieces going into that metal recycling plant this afternoon. Its amazing how quickly it is gone!
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