Effects To Drop, Effects To Keep (DT)

So, if I said that the only way to improve Millennium Force would be to remove it and restore the Giant Wheel to its former location, because we already have Magnum anyway, no one would have a problem with that? Sure thing, it's my opinion, and I'm entitled to it (isn't really my opinion, at least not entirely), just as everyone is entitled to their own opinions - the thing is, net, it might help smooth matters if you said that yeah, it's just my opinion, when you know what you're saying can be controversial. We can't see you shrug or smile when you say it! :)

I wouldn't say that no great ride needs improving, however. We're all more or less in agreement that Cedar Point is a great park (we probably wouldn't be here otherwise), but I'm sure we all have our ideas of how to improve the park, the queues, the line systems, the prices, the resorts... The list goes on. I don't think this is a pointless topic, because Dargon has some great ideas of how the effects could indeed be upgraded from what they were 11 years ago.

No, Disaster can't be operated in the dark because of the block cameras -- that's why the house lights were on for so long, because the "Alaska" lights burned out. That's the only way the crew can tell if there's about to be a setup, by the spacing of the shuttles and if they're pausing in the brakes or not. Other coasters, for the most park, can look out from the platform -- doesn't really work in a dark ride.

-------------
PO!NT OF VIEW - A Different Look at Roller Coasters
http://www.crosswinds.net/~justmayntz/thrills/

Maybe they should put some IR cameras in...
-----------------
DIPPIN DOTS!!!111 THEY ROXOR YUR WORLD!!1!

Still, total darkness, though good in theory, might turn out to be as boring as Avalanche Run, since when you ride other coasters, you enjoy being able to see things or going under or over parts of the same track or having near misses with things next to the track, DT just wouldn't be the same in total darkness
-----------------

Matt - Skull Man of the Elite Eight
I stay crunchy...even in milk!

For the people who think nothing will ever happen to DT think again... Last year when a Cedar Point PR guy was at COSI talking about Millennium Force somone asked a question about DT. The PR guy said a year or so ago  they started to look at ride but the plans never worked out.
-----------------
Andrew Hyde
http://www.experiencethepoint.com

*** This post was edited by Andrew on 8/7/2001. ***

CrystalKat:

You need to clarify your first paragraph more...it has too much anger in it. I'm not sure what you are getting at with MF. I don't see the comparison. Then you said it would smooth things over if I stated it was just my opinion...I did state that.

Dargon: You're supporting DT and then you state that Avalanche Run was boring? It's the same ride with a roof and bad effects. Maybe it's a little better now, but it's not like it went from a bad ride to a Class-A ride because they put a roof on it. But, again, that's my opinion.

Look, I love Mantis. I think it's a top ten roller coaster (USA). But I constantly read complaints against the coaster on Coasterbuzz, and sometimes this site. I don't care!!!! Point is, I would never change the ride despite some critcism.

Hey, I'm glad you like DT, but if you love it so much, then why change it, other than general maintenance or necessary repairs?

*** This post was edited by net on 8/7/2001. ***

I reiterate:

"when you ride other coasters, you enjoy being able to see things or going under or over parts of the same track or having near misses with things next to the track, DT just wouldn't be the same in total darkness"

-----------------

Net, it is true that DT is pretty much my favorite ride at CP. But you can not sit there and honestly tell me that you have never thought in your mind a way to improve upon your favorite ride. Something that would make it even better than it already is, if even the most minute, insignificant little thing, that would make the ride 10 times better. Of course not, no, you never would. Your favorite rides are all perfect the way they are and you would never want anyone to even REMOTELY suggest anything that would make it better. I'm not saying DT sucks the way it is right now and it will ultimately be better if they use my ideas on the ride. I'm simply saying that more people would enjoy it if ideas similar to these were actually put into place. Having a favorite ride is not blindly enjoying it regardless of a few things that you might think aren't that great about it or could be changed. If I say I think a few things on DT suck and should be removed and something else added in it's place, shouldn't I be able to do so without someone telling me if it's so great in my mind why does it need to be changed?
-----------------

Matt - Skull Man of the Elite Eight
I stay crunchy...even in milk!

net: Yeah, I did sound peeved in that first paragraph, and I apologize. The analogy wasn't that good either, but I suppose what I'm getting at is that in your first post you sounded very negative in a thread where everyone had just been saying how the ride could be helped, and you didn't say in that post that hey, it's just your opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own thoughts, certainly, and I do apologize if I offended you with any of mine. I know you're certainly not alone in what you think about DT, but neither is anyone. Friends? ;)

-------------
PO!NT OF VIEW - A Different Look at Roller Coasters
http://www.crosswinds.net/~justmayntz/thrills/

CrystalKat: I love happy endings. It's cool, always has been.

Dargon: I agree completely. I wish MF was longer. I wish Iron Dragon was taller and had more extreme banked turns. I can think of a ton of things I would change (or at least wish for). Bottom line is CP is the best amusement park in the world and we want it to stay that way. Peace?

I think that the only way we could find out for sure about either suggestion would be to try both!

If we rode it in complete darkness a few times, then with all of the proposed effects by Dargon, we'd see what would make the ride the best it can be.

Personally, I like the ride, I want to see improvements. Anything will do. :)

-----------------
-John Gilman; Proud Participant of the DT 80 and member of the O.C.!

well put disaster trans port but don't get rid of the 12-E sign

Actually, if it were all up to me, I would take out the coaster part (even though thats a very bad thing) and I would change it in to a motion based simulator like Spiderman at IOA. That way they could theme it to something really cool, and they could change the building looks to fit the personality of the ride.

But, if they were to keep DT (which they are), then I would really want them to either really highly upgrade the current theme, or just start over with a brand new theme and make it incredible (theming wise and probably ride wise since the great theming).  If they were to drop the current theme of DT, then I would want them to probably change it to (this was said before) an egyptian theme.  You could be going through an egyptian temple and all of the sudden alot of "stuff" starts to happen, like Pillars toppling over right over you, fire spraying, mummys raising from tombs.  Mainly just a big destruction of an ancient egyptian temple as you go through it.  At the brake run, i dont even know what to do, you figure that one out.

-----------------

That's a really cool Idea.
-----------------
I tried blind dating.So I went to this restaurant and she didn't show.It turns out that they dont l

::Is a BIG fan of the Spider-Man ride at IOA:: Yeah but the problem with that is that the Spider-Man ride is housed in like...a 1 1/2 acre building...so they could do it, but on a much shorter and smaller scale...
-----------------

Matt - Skull Man of the Elite Eight
I stay crunchy...even in milk!