Do you think Cedar Point will build a new record breaking coaster?

I wonder. Six Flags Great Adventure built Kingda Ka, the first roller coaster to pass the 450 ft. mark, and now they announced that they will build a record-breaking woodie for 2006, El Toro. Cedar Point needs a new record breaking roller coaster, or Six Flags will take a bigger lead on Cedar Point. And is there avaliable space for CP to build a new roller coaster? Or will CP have to build the new coaster over Lake Erie?

The bigger question is can Six Flags get either of those rides consistently running. A park can build a 700 foot coaster, but if it's never running, what's the point of having it? It's not appealing to anyone - their customers.

I've been hearing just as much downtime is being experienced by KK that TTD had on it's first season. The woodie will be interesting because it looks like a great ride, but we have yet to experience it, its 2 train opertion, and the overall ride quality of such a design.

Once again, CP DOES NOT HAVE A SPACE PROBLEM (YET).

And the chances of something being built over the lake is next to nothing. Conditions for it are fairly non-existent, and non-practical. *** Edited 9/30/2005 3:28:23 AM UTC by Grovite18***

No.

No thanks. Quality B&M, quality woodie, or water coaster works for me.

Kingda Ka has worked at all? lol 6 Flags...the Wal Mart of amusement Parks

El Toro is an intamin woodie, so it won't be as rough as the PTC or Dinn Corporation. Also, El Toro will be better than SOB, because all I heard about SOB are pain and horror.

Has anyone been abroad and ridden the other two Intamin prefab woodies? I've heard high praise for them. Anyone know how reliable they've been? I've heard they are the smoothest wooden coasters around, sort of MF in a MS suit!

As for record breaking, I think CP should lay off that for a bit. We need to get some more family or moderate coasters. Something more thrilling than Mine Ride but less intense than, say, Raptor. The changes to GL indicate that CF wants to attact families, and that's something that CP hasn't been concentrating on. Keep it a thrill park, but make sure everyone in the family has something to ride.

I could do without any more "record breakers." Just build a ride that executes well.

Please, hold off on the records for a while. I want coasters that are up at least 85% of the time. And I definately don't want to see a 500 foot coaster yet. CP needs to go back to making quality rides that everyone can enjoy. I think with Edwards and John H. in control for now we will see more family friendly rides. I belive Hildebrandt also stated when he became GM of CP that he wanted to focus on more family-friendly rides for a while. Like I've mentioned before elsewhere I saw a greater variety of ages while waiting in line for maXair this year than I've seen on any of the coasters, despite the 52" height requirement. I've sat beside numerous older (I mean 50-65/70) people and quite a few little kids that had to be the tallest in their classes. I've never seen that kind of variety on any of the other large rides.

or Six Flags will take a bigger lead on Cedar Point

I'm sorry, but this is just stupid. How many people look across the breakfast table on Friday morning and ask each other: "Gee, honey, should we go to Six Flags Great Adventure or Cedar Point this weekend?"

Answer: nobody.

I noted in a CoasterBuzz thread that my wife has yet to ride any attraction added to the park in the past six seasons, and she's unlikely to ride the Swing, either. But, she loves Magnum and Raptor. I'd rather see a new attraction that appeals to a broader spectrum of guests instead of anothe fastest-steepest-highest-in-the-universe ride.

I don't understand why everyone is bad-mouthing Son of Beast. When I rode it last Fall, I have very low expectations and continued to brace myself for pain. While there are a couple particularly rough sections in the track, the overall ride is actually pretty smooth for what it is. I'm sure part of this had to do with the larger than normal sized wheels on the cars. As far as the ride itself, I thought the first drop rocked. The helixes definitely rattled you up, but this is a wooden coaster traveling at 70mph. It felt like it was out of control, but painful is an extreme term.

Painful to me is when I get my head bashed against the shoulder restraints on certain looping coasters. They could talk as much as they want about G-Forces and what they do to the body, but bashing your head against a shoulder restraint is not good for you and I rarely hear people complain about this.

Getting back to Son of Beast, I didn't like the idea of the loop when I first heard about it, but I could honestly say that it was my favorite inversion on a coaster. It's large and fast. I love the constant speed pulling through the thing. Design-wise, it's definitely a bit of a novelty. I think it would be way more efficient for them to build on a steel structure instead of having a massive wooden structure that is potentially breaking itself apart every time a train runs over it. I do not think this by any means makes Son of Beast a bad ride, though. It's massive and out of control. I thought that was what coasters were all about.

How about a record-breaking Monster or Scrambler? 32 giant arms! Spinning at a record-breaking 60 rotations per minute! The only drawbacks would be catastrophic metal fatigue due to excessive torque, the delay in getting all the riders into pressurized g-suits, then hosing the vomit off the cars after each ride.

Just wondering what record that 'el toro' is breaking. Last I checked none.

Steepest hill on a woodie.

SFGA will probably not even take care of the ride that well. It will be good for a couple of years then go bad.

And if you want a hyper woodie, don't post here anymore. That would be so dumb to make. So much money, long time to make, it will be rough, too fast for wood to handle, and maintence would be crazy.

If I remember correctly, Magnum took the golden ticket for best steel coaster from 1989-2000. Bigger rides had been built in that time, but Magnum continued to take the best steel coaster. Thus biggest isn't always going to be best.

Jeff said:
I could do without any more "record breakers." Just build a ride that executes well.

I second that.

No more record breakers for awhile. Let's go for quality, smooth operation, and duration. With record breakers, someone is just going to come along and break it anyway.

*** Edited 10/1/2005 8:14:15 PM UTC by net***

Yes, but I did not sure.

When I did sleep and dream about 4 or 5 yrs ago. Cedar Point will build a new record break coaster.

It will be 750 ft and 200 mph!

Wait a second. Millennium Force is a record breaking roller coasters and is my favorite along with a lot of others. Magnum XL-200 was a record breakers. So was Mantis and Raptor. A lot of these record breakers are great roller coasters too and if Cedar Point decides to go for another one then more power to them. But if they do, then I hope that in addition to that record that the coaster can run consistantly.