CP & LE Railroad - History

Most likely not a new employee, but possibly new to the engineer's seat. They are not as easy to stop as one thinks and one engine is a little trickier than the others. I have seen other park trains over and under shoot as well. The weather makes a huge difference as well. Cold rails make everything tight and increase the drag on the train. Warm rails can make things roll easier. But in the same hand direct sun on one rail and shade on the opposite rail can cause the gauge to tighten up. It takes a true skill of running by the seat of your pants that some master right away and others take a little longer. Morning, afternoon, evening, and night rounds are all a little different.


CP&LE RR Supervisor/Engineer 04-18

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I came across this video which shows Jennie K in the shop at Garner Holt. Interested to see what she looks like after her restoration is complete. The YouTuber mentions that Garner Holt plans to open sometime next year some sort of museum about animatronics history and also to show off their collection of ride vehicles they’ve collected throughout the years. I might have to make another California parks trip and make that a stop on the trip. Sounds interesting!

Now I’m just yearning even more for Cedar Point to build either a flume or a dark ride in collaboration with Garner Holt. Or better yet, both!


Gemini 100 (6/11/01)

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Didn’t wanna start a new thread as there are alot of railroad threads. Ive noticed the railway is billowing some very dark smoke this year. Not really a complaint but I was wondering if I’m just seeing things or if that’s actually the case.


First ride; Magnum 1994

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CP currently does not have a GM elected , so the smoke will remain dark. Once a GM has been successfully elected the Judy K will burn white smoke to signal this, and the people will rejoice in front of the Funway Station.

Joke aside, maybe the cool weather? Cooler burns=more soot and cooler dense air = more condensed smoke thus darker?

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Gemini 100- 6/11/01

I have lamented about this before. I do remember and miss when the train went out into the "wilderness frontier" and not past and under a bunch of coasters and things. I miss the fort and the sunken river boat. The train ride has all but been ruined with the "development." I think it is quite a shame. The same goes for Western Cruise. People loved that ride. You left the dock and went back into the woods and the trees were plenty and tall. The scenes and the water cannons were very fun. The train and boat ride were especially nice at night. The scenes were lit with nice lighting. You could hear the wolf or coyote howling through the woods. Frontier town altered the experiences but did not ruin them. The Frontier Life also did not ruin them. After that, things started to go south and now all that is left is erector set coasters. A friend said it looks like a junkyard anymore.

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I'm assuming CP&LE will be integrated into what ever in planned in the former SRF area. My wish remains for a water flume/dark ride combo, also featuring a tunnel for the railroad.


- Uncle Jay

The smoke color could simply be what vein that particular batch of coal came from.

Or, the smoke from the trains could be directly directly related to the efficiency of the combustion of the coal that fuels the boiler which creates the steam pressure that drives the train. This is why we see the most smoke while the train is moving away from the stations.

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Was interesting to see the train closed today. I haven’t seen it closed outside halloweekends Thurs/fri in I can’t remember how long. Maverick too which was a bummer.


First ride; Magnum 1994

Outside of the limited availability Halloweekend nights I don't think I have ever seen the train down. Even on the rainiest, windiest and two times I've been to Halloweekends with light snow flurries, the train is always chugging right along (pun intended).

Did the color of the smoke coming out of the engines change when the new pope was chosen?

Closed again today! Sad to see. Wondering if it’s locomotive issues. I’ve only noticed Judy running the rails this season, so if it’s that down, not sure if Myron is available.

Myron is having some work done. Judy is getting her monthly boiler wash. The other two locomotives are off property being rebuilt.

Its time to put Albert back on the rails,


yukonman

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Wow closed for three days and there aren’t 58 YouTube videos about how it’s closed indefinitely and a complete failure.


First ride; Magnum 1994

We aren't one hundred percent sure Zamperla was not involved here though right?

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Is there any mechanical reason why both the Davenport & the Porter had to be shipped off together? If you need two engines for daily operation and you know there is a period of time each month when one or the other needs a maintenance procedure, removing both of your backups at the same time seems ridiculous, even by the exceedingly myopic view the park currently has on operations.

I can only assume that these rebuilds are lengthy, so are we looking at one train ops or complete closures multiple times this season?


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How often does the train run two trains? I can’t recall this happening since I was young in the 90s. But I avoid the busiest days as well.


First ride; Magnum 1994

As far as why the Porter and the Davenport were sent out for work, yes there is. I'm not going to go into the specifics here. It's not my place to say. The two Vulcan's currently in service are approaching a time where they are going to have to be rebuilt. As far as Albert being returned to service, it needs a lot more work than any of the other locomotives need. Will it eventually happen? Who knows

Outside of Halloweekend Saturdays I don't remember the last time I have seen the train run two trains.

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