Could Cedar Point be up to topping this?

Thorpe Park in England has Colossus by Intamin a 10 looper. Could this new Coaster be something to top this?

Just a thought.

I seriously doubt it...the loops' radii would have to be absolutely massive, like 200-300 foot loops.

**Not directed towards anyone in particular** Why the sudden influx of new comers?...

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July 11th: Korn, Puddle of Mudd, and Deadsy

Colossus is only 98' 5" Tall.DemographicsPark:Thorpe ParkType:SteelStatus:Operating since 3/22/2002Builder:Intamin AGStatisticsLength (feet):2788' 9"Height (feet):98' 5"Inversions:10Speed (mph):45Capacity (riders per hour):1300Other InformationFeatures:Inversions: Vertical loop, cobra roll, twin corkscrew, 5 zero g heart rolls.

We know that Cedar Point's ride with be a massive launched ride over 400 ft. This allows for large pullouts, and large elements...they aren't going for most inversions. At least not this time...

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June 28th: LocoBazooka Tour (Sevendust headlining)
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CP Bound said:We know that Cedar Point's ride with be a massive launched ride over 400 ft.

Since when? I don't remeber seeing any official announcement. I believe everything we know up to now is all rumors (except for the Intamin track.)

I think the speculation around new rides attract new people here. To be honest, that's how I found this place, although I lurked for a while first because I was too intimidated to post.

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Well, "we" obviously don't know, but many people "in the know" know. What they have suggested strongly supports a 400 footer.

Accept it or don't...you'll find out soon enough.

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*** This post was edited by CP_bound 8/31/2002 1:22:49 AM ***

Why would Cedar Point want to go for speed & height when they have Millennium Force?

Thanks Dano and Ralph for the support!

Like you Ralph I was lurker also and was intimidated to post. But I would think that any one that has been posting here for a while would encourage new posts and new opinions.

Kevin Hammond said:
Why would Cedar Point want to go for speed & height when they have Millennium Force?

Um, because they can.

Its much easier to sell 'tallest and fastest' to the GP than 'most loops' simply because the market for non-looping coasters is larger than the market for looping ones. And its an easier record to understand.

And while it seems likely this new ride will top MF in height and speed, its not like its gonna be another typical hyper-esque layout. Put another way, I don't see how a 400-ft rocket coaster makes MF redundant.

Who says they aren't getting an 11-looper?

It seems that there is still doubt about it being huge............

But of course it will be!

A multi-looper like Colossus (sp?) by Intamin didn't use any of their unique box style track. So far, we have seen a lot of this type of track at the point. Therefore, it basically rules out that option.

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Actually raptor323, Colossus at Thorpe Park does use the box style Track on the lift hill. Although the track Cedar Point has currently is not lift hill track for obvious reasons, A Coaster that was large in Size would be required to use the 4 rail box Style Track.

Just like how Superman : ROS at Darien lake only uses 3 rail and 2 rail most of the time, While because of Millennium Forces Great Size, Speed, G's and Such it uses the 4 rail box style Track.

If this coaster is as large as rumored, and did by some chance have huge inversions, it would most definately need the box style track.
*** This post was edited by TwistedWicker02 8/31/2002 6:50:22 PM ***

The use of box track is dictated by forces like you said, but there is also another major reason...lack of supports. The track really is self supporting in the box form (to an extent) which is why there are large gaps between the supports on MF. The triangular track is used where there is more support in the turns (probably because it's easier to bend). The 2 railed track is used where there are many supports and little stress on the track. No matter what track used, it's really strong because MF's empty are 28 tons.

Superman: Ride of Steel is just littered with those concrete pillars and small supports in the helix. They could have used the triangular track and had fewer supports which would have looked aesthetically better, but it was probably cheaper the way they did it.

I think one of the major reasons Intamin got the bid for MF and not a company like B&M was because of the fact than Intamin has 3 different types of track to choose from. This made the price take much smaller than if they had all box track. B&M doesn't have that option.

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July 11th: Korn, Puddle of Mudd, and Deadsy

CP_bound said

I think one of the major reasons Intamin got the bid for MF and not a company like B&M was because of the fact than Intamin has 3 different types of track to choose from. This made the price take much smaller than if they had all box track. B&M doesn't have that option
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Intamin got the "bid" because B&M wouldnt go 300'. That is straight from the horses mouth. They still havn't gone near it. Nothing against B&M, but I think Intamin really made a name for itself by taking the chance, and I think we all appreciate it. Let them go higher.......
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Or because a 310' B&M would be close to $75 Million. (and B&M won't go over 220')

If it was economical for CP, they would have contracted B&M to do it. It's not like their coasters would become unstable after they go so high. Intamin was just the better buy.

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June 28th: LocoBazooka Tour (Sevendust headlining)
July 11th: Korn, Puddle of Mudd, and Deadsy

The reason they did'ent buy B&M is obvious they are'ent nessarly over rated but definatly over priced definately for a project with the magnitude of The Millennium

S00perGIR said:
Or because a 310' B&M would be close to $75 Million. (and B&M won't go over 220')

Uh oh, someone should tell SFGAd and Europa Park that their hypers are too high! Does that void the warranty? :)

Joe, who loves Internet "facts"

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*** This post was edited by DaBull 9/1/2002 12:16:34 PM ***

Woops! What is B&M's "limit?"

-S00perGIR, who hates being wrong! :)

PhillipBernard- the millennium........force? ;-)

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