Calypso and Turnpike Cars land

Here is a more revised idea.

This area plus the Cedars area looks huge to me on Google Earth. Quite a lot could fit in there. Many would be surprised. I could see them building another major coaster and then taking a break for a few more years. I might get backlash for this, but I think "adding to the steel/wood jungle" would be the best thing they could do with this area, visually speaking ( if they do I'm sure they will do more with it- not just "another" coaster). There is nothing more beautiful to me than Cedar Point's skyline and to me dive coasters add something to a skyline that is hard to beat. Plus they give an extremely enjoyable ride IMO. I realize that many would prefer trees and landscaping, which do add beauty to a park, but the views of a new roller coaster, especially a B&M, with with great landscaping around it is something greater to behold.

Thabto said:

This is The Internet, where a disagreement can turn into a pissing match that goes on for several pages.

Fixed that for you.

Thabto, I liked your previous idea better with the dive coaster by the car ride behind Raptor's cobra roll. That way, with the dive coaster there, a dark ride would go well in the Cedar's area where, if it were a big ugly box, it would not be blocking any really great views.

You could easily swap the yellow and red space in my map above since they occupy about the same amount of space. With my original idea, I didn't suggest realigning the road which is where it became problematic.

Since I'm having difficutly editing my above post, here is a direct link to a large map image and a slight revision.

Really? I thought you had realigned the road. The one that you posted on page 1 of this thread shows the road realigned in blue .

That wasn't my post.

Sorry, I just went back and realized that.

Why not make a coaster that goes underground? I mean really underground, not like 10 feet. 50, 100 feet I mean. It would make the drop so much longer.

For one thing, the cost of that would be astronomical and the water table at CP is really high up.

noggin said:

...Because you don't "get" to use the ride, you're paying to ride the rides in the park.

Funny you should mention that. And yet I seem to be all alone in my contention that it's really not proper for parks to refer to their customers as "guests".

Yes, I have been a guest at an amusement park. I have been a guest at Cedar Point more times than I really care to admit. But most of the time when I'm in a park, I'm not a guest. I'm a customer.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Thabto said:

For one thing, the cost of that would be astronomical and the water table at CP is really high up.

That's exactly the challenge. Definitely something that Disney could overcome.

Can you imagine if Cedar Point spent the money for something like that and it didn't work...

RideMan: Yep. We're on the same page here.

Coasterblu: Cedar Fair isn't Disney. It would be an interesting challenge, sure, but why take on that challenge? A 50- or 100-foot portion of a drop underground strikes me as a bit, well, dull. A straight piece of track with nothing to see? Hades 360, up at Mt Olympus, on the other hand -- the underground portions of that ride are exhilarating as the track twists and turns.

noggin said:

Hades 360, up at Mt Olympus, on the other hand -- the underground portions of that ride are exhilarating as the track twists and turns.

I loved Hades 360. The tunnel is one of the best elements on any coaster that I have been on. I was really surprise how chilly it got while speeding through there. I also liked how the darkness made it so you could not see which way you would turn next. Plus the Timberliner train was one of the most comfortable coaster trains I have ever sat in. I wish Holiday World would have got those for Voyage.

I'm sure Cedar Fair could overcome the water table problem if they really needed to but do they really need to? Would the thrills of going underground be that massive that they would be worth the amount of money it would take to make it happen?

It would allow for a much longer drop. You know how a coaster has to curve back horizontally before it hits the ground? This coaster would allow for no curve and going 90 degrees into the ground. It would then continue straight down for a little bit and then curve upwards, perhaps do some twists underground.

coasterblu said:
Why not make a coaster that goes underground? I mean really underground, not like 10 feet. 50, 100 feet I mean. It would make the drop so much longer.

If a coaster was to go that far underground that quickly, your ears would pop so bad. The pressure would be very uncomfortable.

Again, part of the challenge.

coasterblu said:

CoasterKyle1121 said:

coasterblu said:
Why not make a coaster that goes underground? I mean really underground, not like 10 feet. 50, 100 feet I mean. It would make the drop so much longer.

If a coaster was to go that far underground that quickly, your ears would pop so bad. The pressure would be very uncomfortable.

Again, part of the challenge.

I don't think you can even consider that a challenge though. It's just fact, when you go down that deep the pressure changes and your ears pop. I've been in caves for tours where my ears popped and even it wasn't a hundred feet down. Not to mention it was freezing cold too.