any word on height requirement yet?

I'd second Jen's assessment. Woodstock's Express will surprise you.

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Group Sales ATL '01
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"The greatest leaders don't take credit for their actions; they don't have to."

Shroader,

Those lines were for people that had a large chest size. I think it was for people with a 48 or 52 chest or something like that. (guessing)

If slouching is what it takes, that may not be so bad. You're head would be supported. The only downside to slouching, I see anyway, is the inability to support the rest of your body properly.

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My buddy was pulled out of the WT line and they had him try out the test seat. He was o.k. to ride thank goodness. Last weekend at SFMM he was too tall to ride Deja Vu, and now he's sweating wondering if he'll be able to ride TDD. He's a solid 6'4", sure hope he can ride it......

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**Vertigo Launches-21**

What's TDD?

"TDD" = "Was that really necessary?"

Come on now...

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MANTIS ROCKS 2002 & 2003

I dont remember seeing anyone discussing this yet so...

On Xcelerator, which has been closed for 3 weeks due to maintenence problems, its has the "stadium seating" or whatever. The seats in the back of the car are definitly taller than the seats in the front...so if you think your questionable...try sitting in the back.

Also, why did this forum about "any word on the height requirement yet?" start. I'm almost certain, that when CP reports the height requirement, it will be said on here.

I'll put down $15 saying the height's going to be 54" though...

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What you lack in intelligence, you make up for in stupidity.

i started it because the child in question ASKED me to do so for him...

sorry if you have a problem with this topic...

Servo--feeling a little peevish today, thank you very much

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mela en coiamin Legolas...
it aint the size of the arrow, its what you do with the bow....

I was just thinking ... everyone thinks the height will be 52-54" but the cars seem to be the exact same as MF (except a bent bar and taller head rests). I know Xcelerator has a higher height limit than 48", but when there is another coaster in the same park with the exact same restraints as TTD, how would the park answer a parent's complaint that a child that can ride MF cannot ride TTD? Do the small differences in the trains really warrent a 52" limit, or does the actual ride really make a difference with the virtually the same restraints? Maybe they think 48" kids would not behave during the launch? I don't know, can anyone explain this?

Millennium Force opened with a 54" height requirement (which was actually changed at the end of the first season, after Labor Day, IIRC) and a conversation with a Highly Ranking Park Operations Official revealed that part of the reasoning behind the 54" requirement on what should always have been a 48" ride was to reduce the "freak-out factor" with some young kids.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Dave, it could be the "freak out factor" or it could just be the park playing it safe and realizing that by cutting kids between 48 and 54 inches out of the equation it would help shorten the line.

That's why I think TTD may start off as 54 and then drop to 52 (or, hey, maybe even 48) a year later. In theory, if it's all about the restraint system then there's little reason to expect anything other than the 52 inches at Xcellerator.

Not to stir things up, but has there ever been a case in recent history where someone fell out of a coaster because they were too short to ride? It's usually someone who is not emotionally stable or mature enough to abide by the rules than heigh-based methinks.

But I think the parks have every right to enforce their height requirements. Of course. It's their park. But every day, at every ride, in every park, some kid that doesn't meet the height stick gets on a coaster -- either the kid has wedged lifts into his shoes or she just managed to get past the attendants or the "ever-fashionable" stiletto boots for juniors. This happens all the time and I think we'd hear about the horror stories if this was a life-or-death issue.

I'm glad my height is in my legs....when I sit down I'm shorter than my mom sitting down...she's 5'3 and I'm 5'10....so I'll clear the neck rule...

I would guess 54 for the height requirement.

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Paris said:

...but has there ever been a case in recent history where someone fell out of a coaster because they were too short to ride?...

I remember hearing about how a kid fell from the top of the Drop Zone tower (not at PKI, but the other Paramount's park). I don't know all the details, but that he was a smaller child. Whether or not he was tall enough to ride, I don't know, but it's just another example of why parents need to listen to the ride ops and trust their instints.

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Actually, the kid was severly mentally disabled. Don't know about heights.

Height requirements are not made just to protect someone from falling out of the ride. That is one of the main factors but there is more to it than that. Raptor's height requirement is 54" because when kids reach that height their body is more able to withstand stronger forces placed on their body. Raptor's restraints probably could fit kids who are 48" fine, but the kids should be 54" because of the higher tolerance the body would have at that age for g-forces. Yes I know Wildcat pulls more Gs than Millennium so I don't even want to get into that. But it also has to do with how long g-forces are placed on a body, not necessarily the amount. By stuffing your kid's shoes with anything, you are putting their lives at risk whether or not the restraint will hold them. Us ride hosts even have to take a little "watch for shoe stuffing" class. We care about your safety so please try to take that into perspective before you go off on someone or try to put your kids' lives at risk.

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Corkscrew ATL 2003
Corkscrew Crew 2002
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Height requirements are set for safety reasons, but I am still baffled how the exact same rides that reside in different states have different height restrictions.

Vertical Velocity at SFGAm: 54" minimum

Superman: Ultimate Escape at SFWoA: 52" minimum

Can someone explain this?

While this is not an exact answer...RIDEMAN WHERE ARE YOU;)...EACH PARK can set the limits as they deem appropriate. The ride manaufacturers have a set limit which is actually LOWER than most of the parks use for the actual height restriction.

Just my opinion but since Knotts has a HR of 52" for Xcelerator, I bet CP will be at least 52"if not even 54".

Chitown-

Apparently the S:UE and WT restraints are slightly different. The WT restraints are noticably bit smaller, as I understand it.

A good friend of mine is able to ride S:UE with no problem, but when pulling down the WT restraint, she can't get even within a few inches of buckling the belt because the harness hits her chest.

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Just because one CF park has one rule, it does not mean all CF parks will go the same way. Here in MN, there are 2 Chance Falling Stars, one at VF and one at Camp Snoopy in the Mall of America. At VF they follow the manufacture's rule that you must have 2 riders. At Camp Snoopy, you can go alone although they do try to pair up small kids. I can see why they have that 2 rider rule at VF. You really get tossed from side to side pretty hard when you go alone. I love it.

I still think that the same restraints on MF could mean that they could go lower than Xcelerators height limit if they want.

BTW, the height limit on Steel Venom is 52" so I guess the restraints are more like WT and not S:UE.

Interesting Falling Star factoids...

VF's minimum height for the Northern Lights (Falling Star) was only 36" until a midseason 6" increase in July 1999. They provided the rideops with a copy of Chance's notice for baffled visitors with kids. From that time, it's also run a much slower half-cycle instead of its original program.

IMHO SFGAM's V2 has a 54" minimun height simply for the sake of consistency with the other 'major' coasters.

-'Playa

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