Another use for the tower.

While I am not one to think there will be more than one coaster this year, I wonder if it would be possible to use another part of the tower for a ride/attraction in the future?

That is an awfully big structure and it seems it would prove it's worth more if it could be used for something in the year's to come.

The red and white I get, but the yellow? Oh well.

Well you know that CP has said they are 'building for the future,' so maybe you're onto something.

And everyone has been asking for a 'Meaner Mouse' (a bigger/wilder/faster Wild Mouse coaster) in the business... This tower could house a great one!

Maybe S&S Power could draw up a 300' version of its Screaming Squirrel. That, my friends, would be a ride!

http://www.screamscape.com/html/s_s_power.html
*** This post was edited by Mr. Halo 10/29/2002 4:33:34 PM ***

Maybe supports will be added in a couple years and #16 will be expanded to be comparable in elements to Xcelerator. A "new" rollercoaster for a budget price.

Hmmm. A wishlist. I'm guessing that this thread will get killed, but I'll throw in my two cents.

I would love for CP to expand either MF or #16. Literally, they could tack some track at the end of either of these rides, add a mid-course brake run at 160 feet, and easily gain the record for world's longest coaster. I'd imagine with the proper mid course brake, they could even add inversions--although Intamin would prolly put horsecollars on the train then, and who wants that?

Oh well, here's to dreaming!

-albert

I'd rather see them build a brand new 10 million dollar + coaster than expand on the FORCE.. the world's greatest coaster already.

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No, this thread was not a "wish list". I was just pontificating on the possibility that the tower could be used, in the future, for more than the L-TH-B.

There is a precedence for this. I believe a park overseas has a Superman-TE style ride and a drop ride on the other side of the tower. Of course, Cedar Point won't really need another drop ride.

Sorry, Chief.

I didn't mean to divert this to a wishlist thread. My thought was that they may add supports to the tower itself in the future for a ride expansion, not just additional ground supports.

Chief Wahoo,

You must speak of the Tower of Terror and Giant Drop at Dreamworld near Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. The ToT has the same speed and drop stats as S:TE using the same launch and car system (but only one track).

http://www.dreamworld.com.au/dw/dreamweb.nsf/web+pages/D537F8A8032B9DEC4A256A780000F5A6?OpenDocument&L1=Rides

The Giant Drop opened almost two years after the ToT, and both were built by Intamin too...

You may be on to something Chief.

Maybe the could get a water slide on the other side of the tower as #16. Set new records there for tallest and maybe steepest water slide

Thank you Halo,

Dreamworld is the park and those are the rides I was thinking about. I am no engineer but it seems like that is one solid structure and there will be at least two sides that will be fairly open without obstruction.

In the water park world this is much more common. A tower is put up to support some slides and then a few years later another couple of slides might be added.

I agree It could be used for anther ride support.. but I sincerly doubt it.

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Has anyone ever thaught that maybe their wont even be a tophat? Maybe thats why it has such a big tower...it might do a whole lot more, once it gets to the top, than just go over a tophat? Just a thaught! (there's nothing else to do but think, at this point)

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besides the fact that everyone including me thinks it is going to be a l-th-b at this point, i dont really see this thing twisting on the way down. so i think it will shoot up the tower into a tophat but instead of twisting into the other piece of track, there will be a drop onto millie island then some elements, then back up the tower then down the other existing piece of track then onto the brakes.

is this possible?

Agro crag - Check out my description of what the ride will do in the "Is it possible the Top Hat ..." topic. I think that you and I are onto the same idea.

I think (as do others) that the strangely angled track support on the "downside" of the tower holds the key to exactly what this ride is going to do.

agro, I doubt there is much "leeway" for elements between the "up" and "down" sides of the tower. I'm not talking about physical space, I'm talking about momentum. If the train goes up 400ft then goes on to some extra elements over on Millie Island, it is doubtful that it will have enough momentum to climb that same 400ft tower. In order for that to happen, the train would have to be carrying hella momentum over the top of the "up" side of the tower. While I think this is possible "mechanically", I'd think that the forces on the rideers would be outside of the allowable envelope.

Now if you see something where the "down" side oly reaches about the 200ft point, then it is possible. But both "up" and "down" seem destined to top out at the same height, so I'd prepare myself for an L-TH-B layout as quick as possible :)

One fault that i see it the equation is the fact that the radius for that pull out is very large, if you get what i mean.
I still think that this could be a possibility, and is definatly the most logical non-L-TH-B idea. It makes the alternating colors not seem so wierd too.

It would be impossible for the train to reach the top of the tower again. In an ideal situation (no friction, no loss or transfer of energy) an object only has enough energy to reach the same height it was originally dropped from. Since we aren't in this ideal situation it would be physically impossible for this to occur. The only way this could happen would be if the down side of the tower was 300ft, or some height less than 400ft. We would have a pretty goofy looking ride if that were the case but it would be possible, but not probable.

Otto said:
Maybe the could get a water slide on the other side of the tower as #16. Set new records there for tallest and maybe steepest water slide

Um, the steepest waterslide is 85 degrees. I'd like to them get a steeper one! They'd have to put upstop wheels on the dinghies!

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