8 Air-Time Hills?

That is the most non-sensical post I've ever read. Cedar Point mislead no one. There are 8 hills that provide, but there may not be 8 bunny hops like Top Thrill 182 said a few posts up. No one said we would get t-bar restraints. Only people who wanted the 500 foot drop talked about it, no one said we were getting that. Hell, I'm not going to explain the other 3, those were all ideas people thought of and hoped for.

Purdue University Engineer said:
8 moments of "air" time:

1) 1st drop

2) hill before inversions

3) hill after tunnel

4) heartline roll

5) hill over tunnel/under 1st drop

6) Stengle dive

7) bunny hill

8) pop-up onto brake run

I will give you credit for 1-3.

Number 4 the heartline roll is not airtime. Depending on how it works, I could give them credit for 0-g's or hangtime, but air is up off your seat towards the sky. There is super strong negative g's on Raptors loop but that ain't air. There is also good hangtime on Mantis' loop sended the rider in the opposite direction and that ain't air either.

Number 5 is the Storm Runner train dump element. That is not even close to airtime. It is more like pain-time and if that element has yet to be named officially, I suggest they call it a mistake.

Number 6, the Stengel Dive looks too similar to the train dump for me to give them credit for air right now. If when I ride I come off my seat before the dump then I will reconsider but right now that looks like a lateral that may have some negative g's that will not lift the ride up off their seat toward the sky. As of now, I would not consider that an airtime element.

Number 7 is certainly an airtime hill.

I have no clue what you are talking about on number 8. That is a turn into the brake run that happens to be going up a bit but there is no hint of possible air in the videos I'm watching.

Personally I think that CP is not counting the "hill" into the brake run or the train dump, but they are counting everything else you mentioned and the two corkscrews. I am only finding 4 airtime hills however. It seems they want to make negative g's, 0-g rolls, and hang time all synonymous with airtime but that is just not the case. Calling a zero g roll an airtime hill is just incorrect.

Raise your hand if you've actually ridden the ride yet.

That's what I thought.

I'm willing to bet that CP's definition of "air" time (Note the quotes around air in this and my post above) for marketing purposes is feeling less than 1G in the direction normal to the plane of the seat pointing towards the headrest. In which case, every element I called out will meet that qualification...as well as the loop analogies that Front Seat Rider gave. You may not agree that those should be considered airtime, but hey...that's marketing.

OK im going to ask this because I dont want to start a new thread... Where is the onride photo section? I cant find it on the POV thing.

Edit: knew changed to new
*** Edited 9/9/2006 3:26:57 AM UTC by Your mom is to fat to ride TTD.***

There are 3 true air time hills on MF and I only counted 2 on Maverick. Don't get me wrong, it looks like fun, but true air time is my favorite part of MF, that float over the hills is a great experience IMO. No I don't need a Waahmbulance or however it is spelled, I'm not complaining, just a simple observation. My soon to be 48" rider and I are excited about Maverick! Now I'm just hoping for the 500 ft. coaster that will run around the entire peninsula with a multitude of true air time hills. :) :) ENJOY!!!!

Yet more people talking about the OSTRs, I'd just like to put in my 2 cents. I experienced the OSTRs on Kingda Ka, and personally, I DESPISE them with a passion. They're not comfortable whatsoever if you even slightly tap your head against them, seeing as it's thin padding around metal, you are in pain, and they staple you down WAY too much. Also, since they weigh so much, the ride ops have to throw their weight into it to even get it down onto you securely, which ensures for a pain filled ride. I think that for Maverick, it'll be O.K., but the T-bars would have been amazing on a looper, more companies need to start doing that.

Also, Maverick will have many moments of air-time, as can be somewhat figured out from the POV, but the problem is that no one will actually experience them due to the OSTRs stapling everyone into their seat, not allowing for airtime.
*** Edited 9/9/2006 4:07:52 AM UTC by DorneyParkFan***

Cedar Points exact words were, "Eight airtime-""FILLED"" hills."
Notice they didn't say a little airtime or some airtime, they said 8 Filled hills, as in real hills, not inversions that people think you get air off of.
How is one going to get airtime when one is stapled down to ones seat with the OTSR.
Ya'll up for some serious head-banging.
;) Nothing like a good'ol argument over hills. *** Edited 9/9/2006 4:11:26 AM UTC by SteelRaptor***

Again where do you guys think the on-ride photo section will be because I couldnt find it on the POV anamation.

I bet it will be right before the launch.

I am hoping and praying there is no head baning. Those people who seem not to have a problem with it are 6 foot or taller... which I am definitely not!

It could easily be hidden in the canyons as well or in that weird coal conveyer right after the first hill

If you look at the OTSRs on Intamins the actual "OTS" part is more like a strap then a restraint. Look at the train renderings.

It doesnt look like a strap... looks pretty hard to me.. I would much rather just have like a 4 point restraint!

Yeah its definitely hard. I've only experience the restraint on Kingda Ka and you don't go upside down on that. But, I can't imagine it feeling good if you were to hit that with your neck and/or head.

It does hurt on SR when you go thru that train dump at the end (like a mini Stengel Dive). You hit the side of your neck into a hard thin restraint like you are going to get your head chopped off. Unfortunately Maverick has the same element. *** Edited 9/11/2006 4:35:11 AM UTC by Front Seat Rider***

Just cause I said it looks like a strap doesn't mean that it wasn't hard. I ment, if you look at the B&M OTSR there is a huge bulky restraint to hit, versus this, you wont experience head banging... yes prehaps a few neck lashes. But I guess we'll all have to wait and findout.

Well-I am 5 -2.. most people's neck is where my head is LOL Grrr... why couldnt they have put tbars in?

Anybody else think Tony and Tyler read this thread

Purdue University Engineer said:
8 moments of "air" time:

before posting the caption

The 100-foot, 95-degree drop will be the first of eight "airtime" moments during the course of the ride.

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to this picture

So much for the

Eight airtime-filled hills

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marketing approach ;)

I think they probably read this thread as well as the same question on several other boards. Not too many people are buying the 8 airtime hills claim.