4D ???

I thought at Coastermania they just said we wouldn't see a B&M flyer?

Actually, I think he was referring to a Vekoma flyer at the Q&A session. However, I can't remember exactly what the question was about. Granting that Mr. Kinzel described it as "uncomfortable," I assume he was referring to PCW's Tomb Raider flyer or a Vekoma. I really find it hard to believe that he would consider the B&M flyer as uncomfortable, but I could see it. Let's hope Mr. Kinzel has not yet experienced how awesome the B&M flyers really are!

-Craig (who completely loved AIR)

I love Air too. I think Air is what flying coasters were supposed to be. But, the US parks want "forceful" rides which flyers can only seem deliver on loops - which makes them uncomfortable. I'd love to see a longer version of Air installed somewhere.

X is the biggest POS I have ever ridden.

For those of you who are going to try and "call me out" on it saying I "didn't ride it at the right time", I have ridden it multiple times over 3 or 4 different years, and every time, I have hated it just as much.

Eff that ride.

X R FUN! :)

I actually thoroughly enjoyed it which surprised me a lot.

Good Josh. If we ever go to Magic Mountain on the same day I know where to go to avoid you. ;)

X is a unique experience. It banged my legs around quite a bit, but it was a very cool coaster. You are very disoriented but in a way that makes it cool. The first drop is insane. You basically do a vertical nose dive! I don't think that CP should put one in for a while. I waited 1 1/2 hours for X on a pretty uncrowded weekday, so I would say that the lines would be too long unless they can revamp the load/unload so that it is faster and find a way to run 3 or more trains. I think that CP should put in a flyer or a floorless before a 4-D. SFMM's Scream floorless was an amazing ride. CP could use something like that.

There are so many other floorless coasters that are better than Scream.

As much as I love coasters, I think that a 4D looks nauseating. Maybe not. The only ride that has every made me even feel sick was MaxAir. I'm not into the moving in two different directions at the same time kind of thing that looks to be going on. It might be interesting to try once, but I wouldn't be jumping for joy to CP put one in. Would I ride it? Of course. It just seems like a concept that still needs some work to become a good ride.

It's honestly a lot of fun. Don't knock it till you ride it. It just literally feels like you're going to be thrown from the ride.

Putting a 4D into CP right now seems to be the opposite direction they want to go. They seem to be renovating, making the place more family-oriented, and focusing on smaller, more "interesting" rides instead of just height and speed, or new gimmicks like 4Ds or flyers.

That's just my two cents, though, but a 4D seems to be opposite of what they're trying to do right now with their image. It seems that they've gone through their trend of huge, mean, nasty machines and now they're calming down a bit. Maybe they'll swing back into the insane rides, but I don't think it'll be in the next couple of years.

e x i t english said:
X is the biggest POS I have ever ridden.

Really, have you ever been on DT?

Cmon, you obviously have never been on it, so why do you even bother with your BS.

Or should I not feed the Trolls :).

^ ha ha ha!! Josh is far from a troll.

And DT, despite the deteriorating theming is actually a very fun ride. I wish they would just give up on the theming already and just kill the lights on the ride.