40 Degree Lift Hill

Doesn't a 40 degree chain lift seem like it is going to be steep? Millennium has a 45 degree lift, and if it wasn't for the speed, it would probably feel like it wouldn't make it.

It will be fine, companys know what they can and can not do. Remember Millennium is 310 feet so they needed a different type of lift system. B&M is a respectable company and wouldn't build something that will hurt the riders.

Griffon at BGW has a 45 degree with a chain so it will be just fine.

Don't forget there's also 16 (I think total) coasters that use a vertical chain lift as well as some traveling carnival vertical lift coasters. Of course, 99 percent of those are small car/trains with the exception being Fahrenheit at Hershey Park.

Wing Coaster trains are heavier than normal from what I've heard too.

There's no need to be told it's heavier.....they LOOK heavier. :D

Are they waiting to put the chain in?

New photos- I swear this coaster matches the blue sky and white snow on the ground. I want to eat it, it looks so nice :)

^^That should be one of the last things they do.....I assume.

It truly is one sexy looking coaster - what a charm!

Ya, I guess it seems like it's going to be steep.

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When I made this topic, I wasn't trying to suggest that it wouldn't work. Just that it would feel different for a chain to be so steep. I didn't know that Griffon had a 45 degree lift, and somehow didn't think about any vertical lift coasters. Still, it will be a different feeling going up that lift.

I think Wild Eagle's lift is steeper than Gatekeeper as well.

B&M is getting better at what they do. Pulling a 41,000lb train up a 40° incline at a decent speed, USING A CHAIN, impressive. Same with Leviathan, pulling up a bulky B&M train at 10mph is incredible. Intamin's cable lifts are great and all, but for B&M to come THIS far with a chain lift is amazing. They truly do just stick with traditional methods and simply improve on that. Unlike Intamin who loves to push the limits , which is why their coasters are always down. Kudos to B&M.

I don't find anything remarkable about lifting something with a chain. Arrow was doing it 50 years ago. Chains, gears and electric motors were not invented last year.

Yeah, I've always thought the more impressive part was how powerful the motors have to be to run these things. I understand how hydraulics work and all, but I'm a little hazy on electric motors. Is it as simple as pumping more juice to it that allows you to lift something heavier ??

The distance and height don't matter, as it takes the same amount of energy to lift something the first ten feet as the last ten feet. The weight is the variable, certainly, but I'm not convinced that any variation of a B&M train is radically different than another in terms of weight.

The motors just ate their veggies and drank milk so they could have strong muscles and bones :)

It's old technology, those 480V 3-phase motors have been around for a while. No different from the motors on rooftop unit and cooling tower fans, as well as hot and chilled water pumps in hvac systems.