djDaemon:
Frog Hopper King:
I never made that argument.
Wait, what? First, Cedar Pointer made this claim (which you +1'd):
Cedar Pointer:
The market has been moving away from wood coasters for years.
To which Jeff responded:
Jeff:
Again, the companies building wood coasters would be shocked to hear this.
To which you responded:
Frog Hopper King:
Then why of the 96 new coasters being built next year is only one of them a wooden coaster? Seems like the overwhelming data disproves your anecdote. right?
Which I pointed out was a poor argument given the data literally shows that wooden coasters, while rarer than steel, are basically as popular as they've been throughout modern history.
To Quote Jeff. "You are vastly overestimating my investment in this topic."
Frog Hopper 2022
Says the guy who has made 40 posts in this topic, a fifth of his total "investment" in the last ten years. LULZ
Keep trollin', yo...
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The same critique can easily be levied against you. (it's almost like I was subtly making that point with my post.)
And I am not trolling, so nice mind-reading there Jeff.
Frog Hopper 2022
Jeff:
Cedar Pointer:
I know people that built Shivering Timbers and they are currently building wooden decks now.
You may know carpenters who worked on the ride, cool, but I know the guys who designed it, and they're still quite employed, innovating and profitable.
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I have a feeling the Premier deal is with Montezooma's Revenge at Knott's and not Dragster. It makes far more sense.
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Zamperla released their new LSM train. https://twitter.com/TPArchive/status/1592590290392846337
“The Lightning vehicle also has different road wheels, made to be low maintenance and withstand high acceleration: they will soon be seen on some of the world’s fastest attractions!”
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The Lightning Train from @zamperlarides
. Aluminum chassis. No steel, no welds.
You beat me to it. That last line really makes me think that this could be for dragster. THE PLOT THICKENS!
Frog Hopper 2022
That train is for PNE Playland, but Antonio Zamperla seemed pretty much all-in to be a significant player among roller coaster manufacturers. They're investing pretty heavily.
I'm impressed by how few parts are involved in that car, and they seem to be living up to the design objectives mentioned in their press release.
If only we knew more!
Jeff - Advocate of Great Great Tunnels™ - Co-Publisher - PointBuzz - CoasterBuzz - Blog - Music
FWIW, those who were waiting on the Premier Rides announcement, it was just them partnering with Schwarzkopf to make a "Retro Wildcat 2.0". So we can scratch them off the list of potential TTD suitors.
Just to clarify, I did know that these trains are for a different coaster.
It is interesting how these trains look similar-ish to velocicoaters trains.
"This is when the fun begins"- Anikin Skywalker
Frog Hopper 2022
All aluminum car frame? So absolutely no chance of any steel parts sloughing off and flying down the midway…
Seriously, the comments read like, “Tell me you’re doing the Dragster refit without telling me you’re doing the Dragster refit.”
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If what looks to be true is true, these trains look great! I know there was a bit of fear that any major changes to Dragster would also come with over the shoulder restraints similar to Kingda Ka. But these cars seem to give a great deal of freedom. Reminds me a lot of the VelociCoaster trains, but with the lap bar coming from the top.
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RideMan:
All aluminum car frame? So absolutely no chance of any steel parts sloughing off and flying down the midway…
Except for those that would need to be mounted to it to facilitate an LSM launch and magnetic braking system.
Brandon
I think it's an important distinction to make that these Zamperla restraints, or really even those on Maverick, are not OTSR's, they're lap bars that happen to come from overhead instead of the floor.
Jeff - Advocate of Great Great Tunnels™ - Co-Publisher - PointBuzz - CoasterBuzz - Blog - Music
I think that's an important distinction. They may come down from the top, but the restraint works the same way a lap bar would work. Kingda Ka has OTSR, but they allow for far more movement than something like Corkscrew.
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